No limit!

[dales529]

Originally Posted by AndyS

Why do 20 other states have a saltwater license and only 2 have a saltwater registry ??? The results with the registry so far has been lower limits and shorter seasons and to everyone this is "a good thing to have" It's time for a change, just like you said.

That is like most things out there today simply NOT true. The Salt Water Registry has has NOTHING to do with lower limits and shorter seasons. And the "other states " you mention with a SWL do NOT have better regulations or longer seasons on the species that are native to NJ. The main issue as stated for years here is NJ does NOT yet have an avenue to process SWL fees like FW so as you always say follow that money and the NJ SWL fees would disappear into oblivion with zero dollars going to Rec SW fish. Again getting sick and tired of posting about the differences here in NJ.

[bigfish1011]

Was on a headboat lately that shall remain nameless.. I confirmed sea bass limit with mate, and reply was “yeah we don’t care”. Every seabass went into a cooler.

On top of that, guy next to me purchased seabass from the MATES. Was told mates do this because not enough in tips

This is not unique to this boat/ seen it plenty of times elsewhere

[1captainron]

Originally Posted by bigfish1011

Was on a headboat lately that shall remain nameless.. I confirmed sea bass limit with mate, and reply was “yeah we don’t care”. Every seabass went into a cooler.

On top of that, guy next to me purchased seabass from the MATES. Was told mates do this because not enough in tips

This is not unique to this boat/ seen it plenty of times elsewhere

Sounds like a pretty shitty boat, especially for the fact that you cannot sell fish in NJ. If the mates aren't making enough tips, they are either on the wrong boat or just shitty mates.

[Skolmann]

Originally Posted by 1captainron

Sounds like a pretty shitty boat, especially for the fact that you cannot sell fish in NJ. If the mates aren't making enough tips, they are either on the wrong boat or just shitty mates.

BINGO !!!!!!!!!!

[Ol Pedro]

Originally Posted by 1captainron

Sounds like a pretty shitty boat, especially for the fact that you cannot sell fish in NJ. If the mates aren't making enough tips, they are either on the wrong boat or just shitty mates.

Capt. Ron, you are blessed to have such a good crew. The boats that do the right thing, fish hard, and go the extra distance don't have to stoop to selling fish or other ways to fill in the pay gap. I bet that those same deck hands though talented don't work hard to start with. Tips like respect are earned not expected. I have known many talented crew members who got jaded and just did the minimum instead if grinding it out. They got comfortable and lost incentive.
All the best Captains and Crews that I have known LOVE TO FISH !

[bunker dunker]

its economics,plain and simple.some folks just can't afford to give any money away.its has nothing to do with "they no better" and everything to do with"we need every penny".a person wants to go fishing,he has to pay the fair,he has to buy food,pay for gas but whats the one thing he does not have to do????i think it stinks!!!!,i for one believe in taking care of the crew and always tip before we untie.its sad that things are no so expensive but these are the times we live in.

[dales529]

Originally Posted by bunker dunker

its economics,plain and simple.some folks just can't afford to give any money away.its has nothing to do with "they no better" and everything to do with"we need every penny".a person wants to go fishing,he has to pay the fair,he has to buy food,pay for gas but whats the one thing he does not have to do????i think it stinks!!!!,i for one believe in taking care of the crew and always tip before we untie.its sad that things are no so expensive but these are the times we live in.

I understand completely what you are saying. I think every fisherperson has to include the 20% tip minimum to the fare plus lunch , gas etc and I think most do but if not dont get on the boat. We now tip 30% minimum on charters but thats us and we get everything you could ask for.

[Duffman]

Originally Posted by dales529

I understand completely what you are saying. I think every fisherperson has to include the 20% tip minimum to the fare plus lunch , gas etc and I think most do but if not dont get on the boat. We now tip 30% minimum on charters but thats us and we get everything you could ask for.

That’s a slippery slope Dave. Alotta guys struggling in this economy. Many can fish but struggle with the extras as far as tipping. Personally I’d rather see a guy head out and pay the fare , tip less if he can’t afford it, than not go out at all. At least it’s a paid fare on the deck.

[AndyS]

Originally Posted by dales529

That is like most things out there today simply NOT true. The Salt Water Registry has has NOTHING to do with lower limits and shorter seasons. And the "other states " you mention with a SWL do NOT have better regulations or longer seasons on the species that are native to NJ. The main issue as stated for years here is NJ does NOT yet have an avenue to process SWL fees like FW so as you always say follow that money and the NJ SWL fees would disappear into oblivion with zero dollars going to Rec SW fish. Again getting sick and tired of posting about the differences here in NJ.

So why do we bother with a Saltwater Registry, the whole thing seems useless and good for nothing. Poaching is rampant, but make sure to sign up, what a joke.

[dales529]

Originally Posted by AndyS

So why do we bother with a Saltwater Registry, the whole thing seems useless and good for nothing. Poaching is rampant, but make sure to sign up, what a joke.

Its pretty simple Andy, The Feds mandated by Law that every costal state had to implement either a SWL or a Salt water registry. Since NJ would not create a fund for SWL $$ to go into except the General Fund" the choice was easy and logical to opt for the Registry!