RFA Update on Sanctuary Proposal

[NoLimit]

Originally Posted by dales529

I wont speak for Jim who you touted for doing a great effort which he did. While your constant message on this is admirable because I believe (but could be wrong) you care about fish stocks and have no agenda against any fisherman making a living ask yourself if YOU personally advocate kicking ANY fisherman off the water? Next answer for yourself what your post would be if the Commercials lobbied to kick recreational fishermen off the water? RFA respects ALL fishermen within the quotas by law we are all forced to accept. Fight the data, Fight the Sanctuary, Fight the regulations but no reason to fight the fisherman if they abide by the regs. JMHO

Thanks and you confirmed my concerns.

Yes I would have no problem stopping all commercial fishing that decimates juvenile stocks and makes them extinct. In fact, I am trying to find a group that shares this goal. We brought stripers back from extinction by stopping the slaughter of juvenile stocks and the same has to be done with other species. Let Shoprite sell Tilapia and farmed salmon for a while. There is no excuse for suffering gladly the continued decimation of flounder, ling, whiting, weaks, etc.

[bhackemup]

Over the years in my travels I have eaten lunch at some very good "Fish joints" like Jody's in Neptune and the little place in Keyport, The Lobsta' house in Cape May, the old Coop in Point Pleasant and all the fish lunches and dinners they put out are good and caught by commercial fishermen. Sport fishermen are not allowed to sell fish so how would these establishment fare if the only thing they sold was a TALAPIA sandwich or dinner? Their demise would be swift and many many jobs would be lost. Eliminating a whole industry, as well as all those good eating establishments just might be a little extreme on your part.

[NoLimit]

Originally Posted by bhackemup

Over the years in my travels I have eaten lunch at some very good "Fish joints" like Jody's in Neptune and the little place in Keyport, The Lobsta' house in Cape May, the old Coop in Point Pleasant and all the fish lunches and dinners they put out are good and caught by commercial fishermen. Sport fishermen are not allowed to sell fish so how would these establishment fare if the only thing they sold was a TALAPIA sandwich or dinner? Their demise would be swift and many many jobs would be lost. Eliminating a whole industry, as well as all those good eating establishments just might be a little extreme on your part.

I cant remember the last time I saw local whiting, ling or winter flounder or weakfish on the menu at any local fish house.

Guess why - its because there are none.

[reason162]

Would you support hook and line commercial fishing? I'm all for banning the draggers.

Originally Posted by NoLimit

Thanks and you confirmed my concerns.

Yes I would have no problem stopping all commercial fishing that decimates juvenile stocks and makes them extinct. In fact, I am trying to find a group that shares this goal. We brought stripers back from extinction by stopping the slaughter of juvenile stocks and the same has to be done with other species. Let Shoprite sell Tilapia and farmed salmon for a while. There is no excuse for suffering gladly the continued decimation of flounder, ling, whiting, weaks, etc.

[Charlie B]

I would like hook and line comm. fishing and maybe even traps. If they could release alive any by catch or undersized fish. I don't want to put any restaurants or fish markets out of business so we need some comm. fishing. But I think dragging has got too efficient at making money while at the same time destroying fish stocks. So it should be greatly reduced or stopped...Charlie

[dales529]

It appears statements are now answers to questions but such is todays world.
I know of no Fishing group that advocates the "decimation" of any species by any fishing interest and RFA amongst other groups have fought hard against commercial oversight when required and will continue to do so when its outside of the regulations (which we are always fighting for better).

The original Thread was about the Sanctuary update and while all opinions on commercial fishing are respected lets get back to the point of the OP (original poster).

Either you support the opposition of the Sanctuary and if so should be thankful of the efforts to stop it or you are FOR the Sanctuary and its your right to say so or not but would love to know your reasons.

[Gerry Zagorski]

Originally Posted by dales529

It appears statements are now answers to questions but such is todays world.
I know of no Fishing group that advocates the "decimation" of any species by any fishing interest and RFA amongst other groups have fought hard against commercial oversight when required and will continue to do so when its outside of the regulations (which we are always fighting for better).

The original Thread was about the Sanctuary update and while all opinions on commercial fishing are respected lets get back to the point of the OP (original poster).

Either you support the opposition of the Sanctuary and if so should be thankful of the efforts to stop it or you are FOR the Sanctuary and its your right to say so or not but would love to know your reasons.

Yep - Stay on topic and one fight at a time....

[NoLimit]

Originally Posted by dales529

It appears statements are now answers to questions but such is todays world.
I know of no Fishing group that advocates the "decimation" of any species by any fishing interest and RFA amongst other groups have fought hard against commercial oversight when required and will continue to do so when its outside of the regulations (which we are always fighting for better).

The original Thread was about the Sanctuary update and while all opinions on commercial fishing are respected lets get back to the point of the OP (original poster).

Either you support the opposition of the Sanctuary and if so should be thankful of the efforts to stop it or you are FOR the Sanctuary and its your right to say so or not but would love to know your reasons.

The original thread was about restoring the winter flounder, fluke, sea trout, and crab that used to spawn every year in the Sanctuary and they are now gone.

Of course none of the "fishing" organizations will admit to letting stock go extinct but that is what has happened in the last 20 years.

Remember Leroy's? "We Smoke Anything". That used to be whiting that were available by the sack full for years. But under the watch of our wonderful regulators, they are gone and so is Leroy's.

So dont cry about fish houses going out of business if we try to do something about draggers. It is already happening and local restaurants are having to serve pollack and cod and haddock imported from distant waters.

[bhackemup]

Way too much to talk about here so hopefully I'll catch up with you some day to continue our discussion...I am on my way to Neptune to get a fried WHITING sandwich at Jody's.

[NoLimit]

Originally Posted by bhackemup

Way too much to talk about here so hopefully I'll catch up with you some day to continue our discussion...I am on my way to Neptune to get a fried WHITING sandwich at Jody's.

They used to be "Baseball Bats". Now, it probably takes two to fill a hot dog bun. Hurry up before they have to be served on a cracker.