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Old 01-14-2015, 06:05 PM
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Stripers are managed under a coast wide mortality rate and fluke are managed under a regional and individual state TAL
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Old 01-14-2015, 07:23 PM
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Stripers are managed under a coast wide mortality rate and fluke are managed under a regional and individual state TAL
Yup I got it....and both states are going to adopt different regulations for stripers and that will create the same problem everyone complained about with fluke. No matter what way it regulated( even if both states meet reduction with different regs) it still creates the problem I stated in my previous post no?

Capt Birch will a nj anglers 34.1-35.9 inch legal bass become illegal in ny waters.... yes or no?

Will Nj Second fish have to b 7 inches than bigger than a ny boat fishing shared raritan bay waters. Yes are no?

This is the problem that now is created... weather it's TAL or coast wide mortality. Different regs in the same waters now create the same problem everyone complained about last season
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Old 01-14-2015, 07:44 PM
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The waters are essentially the same between NY/NJ in RB, no reason should the regs be different. Too many boats from each side fish each others waters for it to not be the same. They finally woke up with sharing fluke regs now they're going backtrack on that and do this? Ridiculous.
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Old 01-15-2015, 09:02 AM
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Default Re: Nj & NY Different Striper Regulations? Ok for Bass unfair for Fluke?

You could piss and moan and fight forever, like we have been doing for years.
Simple solution.... Just fish and do what you have to do to survive, screw everything else. This is what it has come to.
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Old 01-15-2015, 09:18 AM
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Our politicians are either spineless, don't care, or are afraid of that ass named chucky schumer. We should be threatening the same law suit he did with regionalization.
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Old 01-15-2015, 09:45 AM
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Let me see if I understand this proposal. Here's a hypothetical situation :
3 of us go fish a private boat from AHMM. One morning we're lucky enough
to get a 28, a 29 & a 30" striper for the table. Let's imagine we were at Flynn's.

On the same imaginary trip we get a 37" let's say off some NY point. We cannot keep that 37" because
we're berthed in NJ and heading back there, and need a 43" or bigger ???

Pls note we would probably C & R anyway after we got our table fare,
but what if we wanted to feed a neighbor or we have big families ??
WTF is with our politicians ?
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Old 01-15-2015, 10:03 AM
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ron is right,We have marched,spoke,written letters, gone to meeting and every other thing we could think of to get this and others things cleared up or atleast actted upon.very little has been done to help the recreational angler,
headboat and charter boat businesses.i 2nd the 'do what you have to do".
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Old 01-15-2015, 10:30 AM
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The stupidity of these new rules is just absolutely beyond belief.
Why in the wide wide world of sports would these knuckleheads have a different set of rules on shared waters after having the same size limits for so long? Why would NJ encourage anglers to kill a 30lb+ bass?
You don't have to be wearing a tinfoil hat to think that this is an intentional move to screw us all up.
I've said this before and I'll say it again. The economic importance of the striped bass to the recreational sector FAR outweighs it's importance to the commercial one.
All the hand wringers who wanted one fish would be better served by using all that time and energy crying for an end to the commercial fishery coastwide, not hamstringing every charter/party boat already sqeezed in the vice of regulations.
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Old 01-15-2015, 10:35 AM
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I said it before I will say it again put on your peg leg and eye patch and do what you. If you're a responsible fisherman and care about our fishery you will do the right thing. I always follow the regs but they are early pissing me off!!! It's now not about the regs it's about the control and stupidity of the science and the government.
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Old 01-15-2015, 10:43 AM
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Just another management screw up No one mentions Blackfish with the different seasons--another screw up. I'm with Capt Ron. You gotta do what you gotta do.
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