Who's paying?

[frugalfisherman]

The folks who put up the signs I hope

[Flygaff]

These people and towns are scum of the earth. Blood sucking leaches. They want us to pay their bills. I hope the next storm gets them all at home at night. Any questions on how I feel?

[AndyS]

More tax payer money wasted on pumping sand back onto private beaches ?

Their house on the beach gets wiped out, you and I pay for it !

[Reel Class]

Originally Posted by frugalfisherman

The folks who put up the signs I hope

Vision beach is a private complex IN Ortley Beach, in Toms River Township. To my knowledge, Vision Beach is the ONLY PRIVATE beach in Toms River Township, and more specifically in Ortley. We have approximately 1 mile of PUBLIC beach from Harding Ave in Ortley all the way up to Dover Ave/2nd Ave on the border of Lavallette. To the best of my knowledge, ALL OF TOMS RIVER'S BEACHES IN ORTLEY ARE RECEIVING THE REPLENISHMENT, NOT JUST THE ONE PRIVATE BEACH!

Flygaff, just to clarify: You're wishing me (who is a full time resident here in Ortley Beach, where Bruce took the pictures), and my neighbors homes, lives, children and pets are taken away at night by a storm, and are basically hoping we "lose everything" in a storm (maybe even our lives)? Those are strong, harsh words, if that's what you meant.

[Reel Class]

Originally Posted by AndyS

More tax payer money wasted on pumping sand back onto private beaches ?

Their house on the beach gets wiped out, you and I pay for it !

No, FLOOD INSURANCE PAYS FOR DAMAGES THAT ARE INCURRED DURING A STORM OR FLOOD!

[Flygaff]

Originally Posted by Reel Class

Vision beach is a private complex IN Ortley Beach, in Toms River Township. To my knowledge, Vision Beach is the ONLY PRIVATE beach in Toms River Township, and more specifically in Ortley. We have approximately 1 mile of PUBLIC beach from Harding Ave in Ortley all the way up to Dover Ave/2nd Ave on the border of Lavallette. To the best of my knowledge, ALL OF TOMS RIVER'S BEACHES IN ORTLEY ARE RECEIVING THE REPLENISHMENT, NOT JUST THE ONE PRIVATE BEACH!

Flygaff, just to clarify: You're wishing me (who is a full time resident here in Ortley Beach, where Bruce took the pictures), and my neighbors homes, lives, children and pets are taken away at night by a storm, and are basically hoping we "lose everything" in a storm (maybe even our lives)? Those are strong, harsh words, if that's what you meant.

If we have to continue to PAY YOUR BILLS and support your private beaches, Yes that pretty much sums it up.

[Reel Class]

Originally Posted by Flygaff

If we have to continue to PAY YOUR BILLS and support your private beaches, Yes that pretty much sums it up.

That’s the only private beach in ortley. It’s probably 1/16th of a mile long, if that. The rest of the beach, about a full mile in length is PUBLIC. Seaside Lavalette etc are also all public. Being a full time resident of ortley we don’t pay any fees to “vision beach” And residents there pay their taxes to Toms River.

So please tell me, how YOU sir are paying for beach replenishment or if, god forbid another storm comes, how you’re paying for residents homes to be rebuilt.

Better yet, show me your bill for this. I’d love to see it.

[a-baum]

You're missing the point completely. You have a private beach that only a select few can access. If you want beach replenishment, then those select few should pay the ENTIRE bill for whatever length of beach you have to be replenished. Is that so hard to understand? It doesn't matter how small your exclusive little club is or how much public beach is around you. OTHER people are paying to replenish YOUR beach that they are not legally allowed to access. How is that in any way fair, right, or just?

[Capt. Debbie]

You sound a little bitter. Yes the private beaches like the eyesores in Sea Bright (Private steps) and Deal ( zone out no parking /residents only for blocks near our beaches) are rich people using our state & federal money. Property tax does not pay for dredging and town boundary ends at the hi water water.

So any ocean bottom sand moved has nothing to do with the town- riparian in nature it's the THE STATE.

But its' a little harsh wishing their demise . I could care less about their ocean front investment property. Bad investment- that's what insurance is for. Just another rich guy will replace him anyway.

However, the scant few Oceanside year-rounders that's their typical retirement home. Somebody's grandparents.

Originally Posted by Flygaff

These people and towns are scum of the earth. Blood sucking leaches. They want us to pay their bills. I hope the next storm gets them all at home at night. Any questions on how I feel?

[Capt. Debbie]

When the city repaves a street do they also repave your driveway? Is the point. Perhaps a little heavy handed though in vehemence

Originally Posted by a-baum

You're missing the point completely. You have a private beach that only a select few can access. If you want beach replenishment, then those select few should pay the ENTIRE bill for whatever length of beach you have to be replenished. Is that so hard to understand? It doesn't matter how small your exclusive little club is or how much public beach is around you. OTHER people are paying to replenish YOUR beach that they are not legally allowed to access. How is that in any way fair, right, or just?