Immediate Action Needed By 7/30 For Seabass

[AndyS]

Would love to see a 25 per person limit in January and February again.

[Duffman]

So I’ll be devils advocate and become the most hated person on this board……

What exactly is this petition supposed to accomplish? To let the Black Sea Bass Board know a small portion of the rec fishing community disagrees with this decision?

And 2 days to get the responses submitted? As if the ultimate decision hasn’t already been made.

I’m all for the effort and enthusiasm but we are beat. Not beating the system.

[FishingSinceIWasThree]

Sent it in....here we go again...fighting for what we used to have without fighting....makes fishing a lot less fun....gotta do what we gotta do then

[hartattack]

Done and shared.
My greatest worry is regionalized regs,,, if we get grouped with NY we suffer even more..

[Gerry Zagorski]

Originally Posted by Duffman

So I’ll be devils advocate and become the most hated person on this board……

What exactly is this petition supposed to accomplish? To let the Black Sea Bass Board know a small portion of the rec fishing community disagrees with this decision?

And 2 days to get the responses submitted? As if the ultimate decision hasn’t already been made.

I’m all for the effort and enthusiasm but we are beat. Not beating the system.

On man you hurt me to my core…Lead follow or get out of the way. Me and others have a lot of time and effort invested in this. If you choose to give up and throw in the towel fine but why discourage others? Fight with us or die a slow death for you and you kids future.

[Duffman]

Originally Posted by Gerry Zagorski

On man you hurt me to my core…Lead follow or get out of the way. Me and others have a lot of time and effort invested in this. If you choose to give up and throw in the towel fine but why discourage others? Fight with us or die a slow death for you and you kids future.

Not discouraging anyone at all. Did my thing and signed. Just questioning what will it do? We have all been dying a slow death for years and years. Just an honest response to what’s going on. We aren’t comm fishermen nor have the political backing. You have 30 comm sponsers on this site. Where is there stance in this post? Capt Bobby. Just 1. Sad.

[Gerry Zagorski]

Originally Posted by Duffman

Not discouraging anyone at all. Did my thing and signed. Just questioning what will it do? We have all been dying a slow death for years and years. Just an honest response to what’s going on. We aren’t comm fishermen nor have the political backing. You have 30 comm sponsers on this site. Where is there stance in this post? Capt Bobby. Just 1. Sad.

First of all thanks for doing your part Duff... Further all of us on this on this site are considered recreational fishermen, including all our charter and party boat sponsors. I've reached out to may of them personally offline and they are in support of this movement, why wouldn't they be??

Big problem here in general is people are expecting others to tow the line so they don't have to take the time to do it themselves.

Point in case is we have 50 sponsors on this site compared to several thousand individuals... Volume speaks numbers so lets do our part as several thousands instead of relying on 50 others to get his done.

[Broad Bill]

Everyone's heard the saying "people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones". It's very applicable to this thread and comments which have been made. People are frustrated with the rhetoric they've been fed over the last 20 years only to be essentially taken advantage of over that entire time frame with reduced access and possession limits in virtually every salt water fishery. Personally I spent years fighting for changes to fluke regulations and when I turned around to see how many people had my back, one person (Dave Daly) did who I will always respect for his sincerity, conviction and efforts educating me about the process. Other than that, everyone had their own agendas and even though no one in positions that matter said my work and conclusions were wrong, no one had the balls, willingness or conviction to help me carry the bucket up the hill. Hurt to the core over a question! Please, I spent and wasted 5 years of my life analyzing this fishery for literally everyone's benefit and got virtually zero support from recreational fishing clubs, this site or any members of the agencies tasked with managing salt water resources. And I had no skin in the game other than simply trying to help insure the fluke fishery would be around for future generations. I was able to get my work in front of NMFS, ASMFC and MAFMC, something very few people have been able to do. I was published in two local fishery magazines and was invited to speak on a local radio station about matters impacting the fishery to educate the public about the problems facing it and the regulations at the heart of those problems. One individual, a sponsor on this site who absolutely knows who I'm talking about, actually went out if his way to sabotage my work simply because it didn't support his own personal agenda or the agenda of his organization. Precisely the reason the recreational sector is in the absolute mess it is. I went out of my way to communicate with and coordinate efforts with SSFFF, RFA NJ Chapter, JCAA, NJMFC, NMFS, ASMFC, MAFMC and others and in the end everyone regardless of how impressed they were with the depth of my analysis and conclusions baled when it came to politics. When push came to shove, everyone folded like a cheap suit because no one wanted to challenge the establishment. Remember "enough is enough" in 2018, is it really because we seem to tolerate the same today? Everyone echoed insanity was the definition of doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results, well that's precisely what as an industry the recreational community is still doing today and quite frankly people are fed up. So when Duffman asked a very legitimate question, I think history more than supports his concerns which are shared by many and he and everyone else have every right to ask a question and voice their concerns without getting a snarky response from anyone. I think our pain, suffering and sacrifices over all these years allow a legitimate question to be asked which happened to be right on point.

[bunker dunker]

there was a thread not long ago "why no one posts anymore".this is a perfect example of why.a thread is put out to save the sea bass,great.then one person asks a very very ligit question with ligit points and here comes the wave of hate.that person has the right to his opinion or is that a way of the past also.
as the 1st portion of this thread say"we are 2x better with sea bass at this time"{or close} why are we having this conversation.using myself as a example,i am a sea bass junky.i chase them from inshore to of shore and fish different states for them also.with all that said why do we have to fight for what we already have??why do we have to do this when the science speaks for its self.no one is saying this is a "wrong" thing to do.i believe the question is"why".

[frugalfisherman]

Who wants to go seabass fishing in January and February? Not me!