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View Poll Results: What Is Your Preffered option for the 2024/2025 Fluke Season
Do not choose this option it's a reference for last years regs 5/2-9/27, 2 @ 17 -18 inches and 1 at 18 or more for 149 days 0 0%
5/24-9/4, 3 @ 17.5 inches or more for 104 days 11 25.00%
6/4-8/31, 1 @ 17 - 18 inches and 2 @ 18 or more for 89 days 1 2.27%
5/4-9/25, 3 @ 18 inches or more for 145 days 22 50.00%
5/10-6/30, 1 @ 17- 18 inches and 1 @ 18 or more. 7/1- 9/15, 3 @ 18 or more for 129 days 1 2.27%
5/16-9/23, 3 @ 18 inches or more by boat and 2 at 17 inches or more from shore for 131 days 7 15.91%
5/26-9/13, 1 @ 17.5 inches or more and 2 at 18 inches or more for 111 days 2 4.55%
Voters: 44. You may not vote on this poll

 
 
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Old 02-03-2024, 09:00 AM
Broad Bill Broad Bill is offline
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You need to read slower . I said NMFS wants us to believe the largest part of the biomass is under 18” IMO they have no idea what it really is .
They have no idea what the break down per age year class is available in the fishery .
Nor do they have a breakdown of females vs males .
Your a graph and numbers guy, but you also have no idea whether info your using is actually accurate or not .
Bad info in is bad info out .

Only way we will ever have accurate information is when info is based on real life conditions, and not guesses from the hip .
My reading is fine. You wrote "If they claim the biggest biomass of fish is under 18”, letting them breed an extra year should also be beneficial. I don't see NMFS's name mentioned in your post and it sounds like you agree with the statement. Your words, not mine.

Their information, if you're referring to NMFS still, are their numbers and the accuracy of their data has been in questions for as long as their existence. No different than the accuracy of information you receive from your commercials cronies who will say anything that gives them the ability to further exploit the resource and increase catch values. You think they're concerned about long term conservation, maybe a few are but the vast majority could care less and are only concerned with how much money goes in their pockets every trip and they'll exploit, kill and discard as much of the resource as necessary to harvest the most valuable fish they can sell back at the docks. Don't be an alter boy.

Yeah I'm an analytical guy and much more, something you'll never be able to comprehend. What's your point? NMFS's information is sketchy but it's the information regulatory decisions are based on and I've used it to prove decisions made by NMFS are wrong based on that very data. Proof they ignore. And you believe your data from commercial guys you know who have a vested interest to provide only information which will serve their best interests is clean. Please, use the the common sense God gave you.

Please provide one fishery you're aware of which has flourished where the breeding population is pounded year round, younger juvenile fish are killed in the process by the millions and larger breeders of both genders are the mandated target of the recreational regulations and where large female breeders, based on your spot on intelligence, are the prime target of commercial netters. And add to that, the stock is actively mugged by commercial concerns during their spawn.
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