Terrible fluke season

[NoLimit]

[QUOTE=hammer4reel;570557]While it’s easy to think that it’s not correct .
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Even with the increased harvest they got this year of 5000 pounds a week .
With their season quota the 165000 recreational fisherman (sw registry not including all those unregistered fishing on for hire boats .)
If each just caught 1 fish for the season they caught twice what a commercial boat does for the year .


Fisherman numbers add up poundage quick .
If all fished and took home just a few fish the poundage goes up exponentially.
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.[/QUOTE There is no way that NJ recreational are taking 5000 lbs a week.

[hammer4reel]

[QUOTE=NoLimit;570604]

Originally Posted by hammer4reel

While it’s easy to think that it’s not correct .
.
Even with the increased harvest they got this year of 5000 pounds a week .
With their season quota the 165000 recreational fisherman (sw registry not including all those unregistered fishing on for hire boats .)
If each just caught 1 fish for the season they caught twice what a commercial boat does for the year .


Fisherman numbers add up poundage quick .
If all fished and took home just a few fish the poundage goes up exponentially.
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.[/QUOTE There is no way that NJ recreational are taking 5000 lbs a week.

Your crazy , that’s 2500 small fluke .
There are 165000 registered salt water anglers , and that number doesn’t include possible as many as that that only fish for hire boats not needing the registry .

Let’s low ball it at 250000 total anglers .
That means only 1 out of every 100 anglers needs to catch a fluke .
I wouldn’t be afraid to bet our mortality exceeds 5000 pounds a week on throwbacks .

[Tackle guy]

Still hard to believe how scarce the fluke are. Esp. after good recent years seems they vanished overnight. Pirate draggers?

[NoLimit]

[QUOTE=hammer4reel;570610]

Originally Posted by NoLimit

Your crazy , that’s 2500 small fluke .
There are 165000 registered salt water anglers , and that number doesn’t include possible as many as that that only fish for hire boats not needing the registry .

Let’s low ball it at 250000 total anglers .
That means only 1 out of every 100 anglers needs to catch a fluke .
I wouldn’t be afraid to bet our mortality exceeds 5000 pounds a week on throwbacks .

No way - just look at the Atlantic Highlands fleet. Its the largest in the state and you mean to tell me that they are taking even 2000 or 1000 lbs of fluke a week? That is utterly impossible. And I was out last week. From Sandy Hook Bay to Breezy Point, there were perhaps 10 private boats fluking. So dont even go there with "Its the recreational fault"

[Tackle guy]

Party boat fluking was ok in June so far July is a disaster.i go few times a week.heard all the excuses water temp. Moon groundswell wind..all nonsense .the fish ain't there. Captains doing their best but it ain't happening

[Jigman13]

Seems like they're stacked in the back and in shallow water where the massive shoals of peanuts are pouring out. Catching 18"+ isn't the problem this year. It's finding them 17 to 17.999" where I'm fishing.

[Brewlugger]

Originally Posted by Jigman13

Seems like they're stacked in the back and in shallow water where the massive shoals of peanuts are pouring out. Catching 18"+ isn't the problem this year. It's finding them 17 to 17.999" where I'm fishing.

Been the same for us down south, alot of 19 to 22 inch fish in 3 to 7 foot in the back.

[Jigman13]

Originally Posted by Brewlugger

Been the same for us down south, alot of 19 to 22 inch fish in 3 to 7 foot in the back.

I dropped one last week that was an easy 24" in about 4-5' of water. Spit the hook and just slowly sunk back down to the bottom. I was fine with it as I already had my 18"+, but woulda been a nice picture and release--an a PB from from shore...

[hammer4reel]

[QUOTE=NoLimit;570625]

Originally Posted by hammer4reel

No way - just look at the Atlantic Highlands fleet. Its the largest in the state and you mean to tell me that they are taking even 2000 or 1000 lbs of fluke a week? That is utterly impossible. And I was out last week. From Sandy Hook Bay to Breezy Point, there were perhaps 10 private boats fluking. So dont even go there with "Its the recreational fault"

I did not say it’s the recreational guys fault .
But UFS you think we don’t gave an impact you must fish around a lot of unsuccessful fisherman .
Numbers are numbers . With. A quarter million Nj based salt water anglers it doesn’t take each angler keeping one fish each to get incredible numbers .

If each angler only caught one keeper all season that’s a half a million pounds .
Sure some guys might only catch a few keepers a season , but then there are guys who will catch 75 keepers or more for the season .

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[Tackle guy]

Party boats are not catching this year .daily pictures show 10 to 20 keepers per day.most customers catch no keepers.some of us still enjoy a day on the water but hard to justify money spent for others.hope August is better.