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Old 01-23-2015, 06:40 PM
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Default Re: Bedtter data needed to cope with changing ocean

"Rising sea levels, ocean acdification and warming waters are disrupting fisheries and changing the balance of marine life off the coastal United States, the draft warn"

As soon as I see wording like this I can't take the article serious. "BALANCE", what a vague and useless term, especially when it's supposed to represent science. What exactly do they mean by balance? WHat the gov't panels and the so called scientists on these panels (I'm in academia, and fight with people all of the time) need to recognize is that conditions always change, they've been changing before Man, and will change after we are gone from this planet. Species diversity and the natural ranges of species have also changed throughout history, some of it due to climatic change (which has been occurring long before we were around), some of it due to dispersal from increasing populations, and shifting/changing food resources. We should do all we can to limit pollution, but this constant bombardment about climate change and what Humans can do to alter it is folly.

This year alone there have been huge incursions of tropical fish, marine mammals, and birds, into areas of the Northern Pacific where they are rarely, if ever, found. Of course there are many who would cry out that this is due to climate change, but it is simply the result of warm water incursion from the El Nino in the Southern Pacific. ENSO patterns in the Pacific, and NAO patterns in the Atlantic (to name a few) are some of the largest contributors to variation in climate.

THe most recent climate report from the IPCC did not even include the most reliable source of data, satellite data. The satellite data does not fit the narrative for the climate brigade, so they simply leave it out.

sorry for the rant......
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