Rod Taper?!!!

[JerseyCoast]

Nice informational post here Kevin!!

I agree with you that fast tapered graphite blanks are trouble in most cases. Yet, we see so many of them sold under "popular brand names" because of some perfectly executed marketing skills. I know some good fishermen who will swear on their Brand name rods being the best made, but when they pick up the same action in another name they say its junk and not the right action. So many people are tricked under the advertising that we see today!

Great read, some good info and I wanted say that I agree with you!! Maybe a live bait rod...( no, they are better in e-glass) I see no other good to that combination of graphite and that action.

[HDMarc]

Very informative read, Kevin. I've often heard of different "action" rods and had little understanding of what the difference was. Your explanation definitely makes it easier to understand.

[East Coast Angler]

Taper or action I have two rods from the same company Phenix both have a slow taper one rod is fast and one is Moderate

Kevin do you mean action and not taper? its my understanding that different rods are built on the same mandrells and the taper are the same

What makes the action differ is the way they lay them up cut the patterens and how many layers they use But the tapers are the same

[Kevin Bogan]

East Coast. Taper and action are generally the same. You could have two blanks form the same mfgr, wrapped on the same mandrel, and if one has more material in the butt section, it will be a little faster.

[East Coast Angler]

Originally Posted by Kevin Bogan

East Coast. Taper and action are generally the same. You could have two blanks form the same mfgr, wrapped on the same mandrel, and if one has more material in the butt section, it will be a little faster.

I never thought taper & action as one in the same

Taper can be slow or fast

so can action but you can have a slow taper fast action rod or a fast taper slow action rod

Its all about how a rod is maped out not the taper

also has little to do with material you can have a extra fast hard tip glass rod and a slow action soft tip graphite rod

all about how a rod is maped out

you can aslo use the same part of a mandrell and get different action rods

I agree with you on over priced custom rods I went to a builder and he wanted way north of $600 for a seeker

No way do I think a seeker is worth anywere near that no matter how pretty ot looks its still a seeker same goes for calstar phenix on and on

But to say a low quality graphite or glass rod is better than a high quality I dont get

If I were to agree with you I would just buy ulgy sticks for 69

[Ol Pedro]

The first time that I heard of Taper was in the early 70's . It was on Browning Siloflex and Fenwick blanks . How many people remember when most rods were parabolic (early solid glass/hollow) ? Action meant more then . Light , medium , or heavy . From a moodle to a broomstick . Same flex top to bottom . When the progressive taper came , slow , medium , fast , and extra fast tapers became relevant terms to discribe the same thing .The way that blanks were made changed . With better fibers to work with , internal pressurization , and changing the angle that the fiber is cut and where it's placed in the layup changed where the blank will flex/how much .

[JerseyCoast]

Originally Posted by Ol Pedro

The first time that I heard of Taper was in the early 70's . It was on Browning Siloflex and Fenwick blanks . How many people remember when most rods were parabolic (early solid glass/hollow) ? Action meant more then . Light , medium , or heavy . From a moodle to a broomstick . Same flex top to bottom . When the progressive taper came , slow , medium , fast , and extra fast tapers became relevant terms to discribe the same thing .The way that blanks were made changed . With better fibers to work with , internal pressurization , and changing the angle that the fiber is cut and where it's placed in the layup changed where the blank will flex/how much .

How true it is........!!!!! Back in the day,, most of the glass rods were more parabolic! You are 100% right! Then, we got away from that, with graphite and marketing. Now.....full circle and we are back to the old actions with newer materials and buying the same shoes and clothes that we wore 25- 30 yrs ago!

The only difference today is the materials being used. Some of them are truly incredible! But.....your spot on here with saying we are revisiting the days of yester-year.

[East Coast Angler]

[QUOTE=Ol Pedro]The first time that I heard of Taper was in the early 70's . It was on Browning Siloflex and Fenwick blanks . How many people remember when most rods were parabolic (early solid glass/hollow) ? Action meant more then . Light , medium , or heavy . From a moodle to a broomstick . Same flex top to bottom . When the progressive taper came , slow , medium , fast , and extra fast tapers became relevant terms to discribe the same thing .The way that blanks were made changed . With better fibers to work with , internal pressurization , and changing the angle that the fiber is cut and where it's placed in the layup changed where the blank will flex/how much .[/QUOTE

well said