New Long Branch Fishing Pier

[catsmeow]

Having been there in the 50's i would agree with bob

[Broad Bill]

Originally Posted by Togfather2530

Living in the past reminiscing, I get it. The fishing isn’t comparable today.

Not living in the past, just talking about it which is allowed correct?

[hammer4reel]

Originally Posted by Togfather2530

Living in the past reminiscing, I get it. The fishing isn’t comparable today.

You probably should take up golf

[Togfather2530]

Yeah you’re probably right the golf is probably better today. They probably have better courses etc. than they had back in the day. I however don’t golf. I do, however, except the truth of what we are facing today. Once that peer is in there, let me know how many ling and whiting you catch. 🤣🤣🤦*♂️🤦*♂️.

[Togfather2530]

Originally Posted by Broad Bill

Not living in the past, just talking about it which is allowed correct?

Yes Bill I agree. You are totally allowed to talk about it. I just would not expect the same results on the new peer that you had on the old one. I hope more than anyone that those days return. Hell the fishing isn’t even meant that good with $150,000 boat and the best electronic equipment can buy lol. I don’t consider myself the best fisherman by any means, but I have gotten better over the years and it continually becomes harder and harder so that should tell you something

[hammer4reel]

Originally Posted by Togfather2530

Yeah you’re probably right the golf is probably better today. They probably have better courses etc. than they had back in the day. I however don’t golf. I do, however, except the truth of what we are facing today. Once that peer is in there, let me know how many ling and whiting you catch. ������*♂️��*♂️.

I don’t expect to see either of those fish there .
But there def has been more whiting and ling at the mud hole than in years .
A commercial friend of mine usually lets me know when to go .
We get enough whiting for one good smoke
And the whiting have been pretty decent size .

[Broad Bill]

Originally Posted by Togfather2530

Yes Bill I agree. You are totally allowed to talk about it. I just would not expect the same results on the new peer that you had on the old one. I hope more than anyone that those days return. Hell the fishing isn’t even meant that good with $150,000 boat and the best electronic equipment can buy lol. I don’t consider myself the best fisherman by any means, but I have gotten better over the years and it continually becomes harder and harder so that should tell you something

TF I agree, if my post implied the fishing would be the same that wasn't my intent. With that said, I think IF the pier extends far enough there could be a very good fluke fishery. I also think there could be some ling caught again, whiting is a different issue. I think with the resurgence of bunker and bass, there could be a decent seasonal bass fishery, limited but it could happen. I think black fish will be attracted and any other species attracted by jetties. Will it be the same fishery as the 60's and 70's, none are. Would it be great to have a decent ocean fishing pier, yes. That's all I was trying to say.

[Broad Bill]

Originally Posted by hammer4reel

I don’t expect to see either of those fish there .
But there def has been more whiting and ling at the mud hole than in years .
A commercial friend of mine usually lets me know when to go .
We get enough whiting for one good smoke
And the whiting have been pretty decent size .

Those are some beautiful whiting. If regulations are put in place to protect these fish from small mesh netters, I believe the fishery will once again expand in very decent numbers to the Mud Hole and NY Bite. But the regulations can't allow unabated netting with tens of thousands of juveniles left floating on the surface. If changes were made in fisheries management, which I have little to no faith there will be, to honestly manage stocks instead of managing commercial catch values, there'd be enough to go around for everyone. And in the case of ling and whiting, you'd see another world class fishery for bluefins in the Mud Hole in the Spring and Fall during their migration past our coast.

[hammer4reel]

Originally Posted by Broad Bill

Those are some beautiful whiting. If regulations are put in place to protect these fish from small mesh netters, I believe the fishery will once again expand in very decent numbers to the Mud Hole and NY Bite. But the regulations can't allow unabated netting with tens of thousands of juveniles left floating on the surface. If changes were made in fisheries management, which I have little to no faith there will be, to honestly manage stocks instead of managing commercial catch values, there'd be enough to go around for everyone. And in the case of ling and whiting, you'd see another world class fishery for bluefins in the Mud Hole in the Spring and Fall during their migration past our coast.

No doubt , have seen miles of floaters there on trips coming back from offshore .
And some times they aren’t all tiny fish .

[Broad Bill]

Originally Posted by hammer4reel

No doubt , have seen miles of floaters there on trips coming back from offshore .
And some times they aren’t all tiny fish .

And if summer and winter flounder had swim bladders and floated when dead, we'd all know exactly what's happened and is happening to both those fisheries.