Ethical Ice Fishermen

[Andrushkin33]

Or krasnoperka .....but I know krasnoperka can be caught around here.

[lennysky]

Red fin shiner is definitely around as is the common shiner. I caught common shiners up to 1.5 pounds

[Eskimo]

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Originally Posted by Andrushkin33

Being from a different country their mentality is completely different and it takes awhile for them to see things your way. Most are aware of the rules just choose to ignore them completely when it comes to limits and size.

I agree. I don't want to get too specific, because people on this board say I'm offensive, but I've noticed that anglers who have immigrated from a kleptocracy approach fishing like they just won a free shopping spree.

They are going to bring every damn fish they caught home, even if they have to shove that fish up their ass to sneak it past the park police.

I've seen it too many times: a limit of fish goes on the stringer - everything over that goes into the backpack. Right?

They can't believe the abundance of gamefish in America and don't understand why we're not all just looting the waters for all they're worth. They don't see the generations of work and voluntary conservation that went into building the quality of fishing we have here today.



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[lennysky]

Back in Ukraine, fish of all sizes were kept to feed families as a necessity as fish was rarely available at the market and the ones that were sold smelled like diesel. Even my family questions my catch and release reasoning time and time again. It takes decades to change people's outlook and only if they are open to it. I have some foreign fisherman that practice strict catch and release but it's not the norm. I see the same in our estuary and salt fisheries when it comes to stripers and fluke

[zhitoman]

Originally Posted by lennysky

Red fin shiner is definitely around as is the common shiner. I caught common shiners up to 1.5 pounds

You mean golden shiners? I catch a lot of them, where do you fish for big ones?

[lennysky]

In the spring they spawn and big ones are close to shore. I sometimes catch them on crappie jigs. Hard to target them because they mode a lot.

[zhitoman]

Keep criticizing foreigners, but at least we don't use trout for catfish bait like some people on this forum. Another thing, many of you practice catch and realize. You need to realize that most of pike and pickerel you guys release, do not survive due to excessive handling. Every day somebody posts pictures holding fish by its gills with blood leaking all over, and then claims that the fish was released "to fight another day." You better of keeping that fish and feeding it to your cats because it has no chances of survival with damaged gills and half of it protective slime coat gone. Not to mention, who in their right mind uses live bait ice fishing with tip ups and expects to release fish uninjured?

[zhitoman]

Originally Posted by lennysky

Back in Ukraine, fish of all sizes were kept to feed families as a necessity as fish was rarely available at the market and the ones that were sold smelled like diesel. Even my family questions my catch and release reasoning time and time again. It takes decades to change people's outlook and only if they are open to it. I have some foreign fisherman that practice strict catch and release but it's not the norm. I see the same in our estuary and salt fisheries when it comes to stripers and fluke

Western Ukraine has poor fishery, but Central and Eastern Ukraine has so many species its crazy. Even sunfish, bullheads, and channels live there.

[zhitoman]

Originally Posted by lennysky

In the spring they spawn and big ones are close to shore. I sometimes catch them on crappie jigs. Hard to target them because they mode a lot.

Share a spot? I love catching them and eating them.

[stevejordan]

Originally Posted by zhitoman

Keep criticizing foreigners, but at least we don't use trout for catfish bait like some people on this forum. Another thing, many of you practice catch and realize. You need to realize that most of pike and pickerel you guys release, do not survive due to excessive handling. Every day somebody posts pictures holding fish by its gills with blood leaking all over, and then claims that the fish was released "to fight another day." You better of keeping that fish and feeding it to your cats because it has no chances of survival with damaged gills and half of it protective slime coat gone. Not to mention, who in their right mind uses live bait ice fishing with tip ups and expects to release fish uninjured?

ive only been on this site for a couple years but ive never seen anyone post a picture of a fish bleeding out and saying they released it...

also how is using a legally harvested trout for bait wrong in any way?

and lastly, everyone uses live bait on tip ups... been using live bait on tip ups since i was a kid and probably 99% of fish ive caught have been lip hooked or hooked just inside the mouth. once in a while youll get a gut hooked fish but that is just something that happens in the sport of fishing. the only way to prevent that is to not fish...