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UglyStick · #1 06-04-2015, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Joey Dah Fish

You sound pretty bitter Dave. Not everyone shares your passion for tiles. I've sent my share of emails on this subject to th appropriate parties. I'm not really sure why you have a hard on for these 6 pack guys. Perhaps I misinterpreted your comments?

Speaking solely for myself... take a look at some of the recent pics from the 6 pack tile trips... many more photos like that and tiles will be on the endangered species list...

Joey Dah Fish · #2 06-04-2015, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by UglyStick

Speaking solely for myself... take a look at some of the recent pics from the 6 pack tile trips... many more photos like that and tiles will be on the endangered species list...

They are paying fares and entitled to there catch. NJ rec anglers really don't put any significant pressure on tiles in our area. The reason for limit is the commercial fleets from other areas bring their catch in to NJ because we didn't have a limit. So all the fish they brought in were counted as caught in NJ and of course they can catch many more than their home port. That is my understanding.

jjdbike · #3 06-04-2015, 08:36 PM

First off thank you Dave, Jeff & Jim for going. I would have been there it it were possible. Also thank you to those who called Bookers office. This seems like a sweeping and inappropriate over-reach of power especially w/out good local science to support such decisions.
JD

EEL killer · #4 06-05-2015, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Joey Dah Fish

They are paying fares and entitled to there catch. NJ rec anglers really don't put any significant pressure on tiles in our area. The reason for limit is the commercial fleets from other areas bring their catch in to NJ because we didn't have a limit. So all the fish they brought in were counted as caught in NJ and of course they can catch many more than their home port. That is my understanding.

Apparently we are not entitled to our catch according to some people .I would love to see the numbers of commercial fishing VS recreational .That should tell quiet a story .Also do not understand why recreational fisherman have to be punished for commercial guys .Is it because commercial guys have large frozen food companies behind them and plenty of money to throw ?

EEL killer · #5 06-05-2015, 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by UglyStick

Speaking solely for myself... take a look at some of the recent pics from the 6 pack tile trips... many more photos like that and tiles will be on the endangered species list...

Not to start trouble but by your rational should we not post pictures of our harvest at all ? and where does it stop ? First tile fish then seabass ,fluke ,stripers? I fish for the thrill of the fight and the thrill of catching a big fish ,personally I don't eat fish but if the regulations say you can take a certain amount then why not? The pictures u r referring to are from our last 2 trips .We took 11-12 fish per man with the new regs it's going to be 7 fish per man so not that much different but now we should be afraid to post pics in fear that they will close it? It just does not make sense .

Harpoon · #6 06-05-2015, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by UglyStick

Speaking solely for myself... take a look at some of the recent pics from the 6 pack tile trips... many more photos like that and tiles will be on the endangered species list...

closures are based on scientific data, no matter how out dated or incorrect the data it is...not pictures on the web.

It seems you have a bone to pick with people taking their legal limit...not sure why.

capt richie · #7 06-05-2015, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Harpoon

closures are based on scientific data, no matter how out dated or incorrect the data it is...not pictures on the web.

It seems you have a bone to pick with people taking their legal limit...not sure why.

I don't think he has a bone to pick just think he was making a point trust me i'm no tree huger i'm an eater but if you don't think all those pics of tiles and cockpit shots of 150 sea bass doesn't have some kind of impact on the decision making i think many have to disagree i'm all for self promoting but in some cases it might be doing more harm than good... over the rail and in the pail!!!!

UglyStick · #8 06-05-2015, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Harpoon

closures are based on scientific data, no matter how out dated or incorrect the data it is...not pictures on the web.

It seems you have a bone to pick with people taking their legal limit...not sure why.

I'm well aware of why the emergency regs were put in place and how they are (supposedly) determined, including the commercial sector. My comment was one of sarcasm...

In this day and age I'll never understand the mentality of fishermen who keep all they can every time they can even if it's legal. I honestly don't think posting slaughter pics up on the web helps anyone's conservation efforts.

Jay · #9 06-05-2015, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by UglyStick

Speaking solely for myself... take a look at some of the recent pics from the 6 pack tile trips... many more photos like that and tiles will be on the endangered species list...

How could a six pack charter posting their limit have any impact on Tiles becoming an endangered species? How about all the Commercial guys they don't count? Dogfish and Pout no one targets them their endangered species. Regardless, these morons are going to regulate every species eventually. Catch em all up why you can!

Dave A · #10 06-04-2015, 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Joey Dah Fish

You sound pretty bitter Dave. Not everyone shares your passion for tiles. I've sent my share of emails on this subject to th appropriate parties. I'm not really sure why you have a hard on for these 6 pack guys. Perhaps I misinterpreted your comments?

I am not bitter Joe just frustrated. For years (since 1981) I have been involved in fisheries issues and no matter what fishery, the same few industry members get involved. Afterwards, the bitching and complaining about the regs starts from the for hire captains and tackle shop owners. This was a very historic issue due to the involvement of the SAMFC. If they got their way and forced their emergency action on us it would have established a very bad precedence for future regs especially since there was no science to back them up.