Candidate for NJ Governor Talks about Stripers, Hunting

[bulletbob]

Look, we have massive problems here in rural upstate NY, because we have the city hung around our necks, even though our wants, needs,desires, are radically different from NYC people.. So really, I am in poor position to give advice.. I would just suggest that NJ voters get to know what the candidates stand for, and vote accordingly.. The more the candidate makes promises to voters that don't pay property taxes, get their food with SNAP, and live almost free in Section 8 housing, the more you want to learn about him/her. NY and NJ voters that own homes, pay big property and school taxes,always seem to get outvoted by the "free stuff' citizens in the cities..Lets hope Jersey picks correctly for a change... bob

[AndyS]

Murphy came to "South Jersey" once, talked about fires, I think that was it. Never did I hear that man utter such woods as hunting, fishing, trapping, river, lake, stream, etc etc.

[FISHGERE]

Originally Posted by AndyS

Murphy came to "South Jersey" once, talked about fires, I think that was it. Never did I hear that man utter such woods as hunting, fishing, trapping, river, lake, stream, etc etc.

SHE IS NOT EVEN FROM NEW JERSY WHY VOTE FOR SOMEONE WHO CAME FROM OUT OF THE STATE MURPHY IN A SKIRT

[reason162]

Originally Posted by AndyS

Never did I hear that man utter such woods as hunting, fishing, trapping, river, lake, stream, etc etc.

Who cares, are you one of those people who want your political leaders to be just like you? What's more important - that the governor knows about hunting and trapping personally, or he/she supports policies that keep our land/water clean, and punish polluters and listens to good science when it comes to conservation?

[hammer4reel]

Originally Posted by reason162

Who cares, are you one of those people who want your political leaders to be just like you? What's more important - that the governor knows about hunting and trapping personally, or he/she supports policies that keep our land/water clean, and punish polluters and listens to good science when it comes to conservation?

How about they actually understand its economic impact . This last administration didn’t do anything to improve neither hunting or fishing in this state .
Actually decreased its allocations .
Reef program became a total stand still . Only deployments were donated ones
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Took 8 years to finally replace the recreational members on the marine council etc .

Others states lobbying to effect our quotas etc .

Only way change will ever happen is if they have a vested interest .

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[Broad Bill]

Originally Posted by reason162

Who cares, are you one of those people who want your political leaders to be just like you? What's more important - that the governor knows about hunting and trapping personally, or he/she supports policies that keep our land/water clean, and punish polluters and listens to good science when it comes to conservation?

First the CYA politically correct phrase is "best available science", not good science, which is an insurance policy for saying we're not really sure how close to representative the results of our scientific efforts really are. Could be 40% off like "New MRIP", 50% off on assigned recreational summer flounder catch values in 2018 and earlier years as a result of "Old MRIP" being completely inaccurate. Could be within a 2% margin of error or could be 60% - 80% off like commercial discard mortality rates or anything in between. Hardly a means of managing a stock resource or anything for that matter.

I do agree with your position all along that science needs to drive data and data needs to drive decisions, not the other way around which is where fisheries management is these days. BUT, common sense needs to be balanced with science for good management practices and right now common sense isn't even in the picture. It's been replaced by corruption, political and corporate or commercial greed.

I agree its more important an elected Governor support policies that keep our land/water clean, punish polluters and poachers, put some teeth into the laws by beefing up enforcement efforts and fines and make policy decisions based on a combination of science and common sense. Do we really need science to know Virginia is single handedly destroying the striper population and Chesapeake Bay or that the NC and VA commercial fleets are single handedly risking the future of the summer flounder fishery with their fall / winter commercial fishing practices. Or that the sea bass biomass has been completely rebuilt and the recreational sector is still not getting their fair share based on MSA legislation. We don't and somewhere in the process science needs to marry up with common sense to adopt management practices that actually help protect public resources and allocate those resources fairly between commerce and the recreational sector including all the small businesses dependent on it. That's the perspective, in my opinion, officials should be judged on to be elected into office.