Raritan Bay poaching striped bass: must read !

[shrimpman steve]

These guys aren’t going to buy licenses. Come on. They don’t respect the bag limit law what makes anyone think they’ll obey a license law. Not gonna happen. Same theory as when you outlaw guns only outlaws will have guns.

As far as Floridas license. You should see the free public ramps here. New, concrete, beautiful. Funded by licensing

[Jigman13]

Originally Posted by shrimpman steve

These guys aren’t going to buy licenses. Come on. They don’t respect the bag limit law what makes anyone think they’ll obey a license law. Not gonna happen. Same theory as when you outlaw guns only outlaws will have guns.

THISSSS!!!! x2...

During the Spring run this year I watched COUNTLESS guys from Woodbridge to Cliffwood Beach burying both undersized and over-possession #s of bass in the sand, or ditching them in a bush, garbage can, etc. Or they have one guy run the fish up to the car to stash.

They can do sting operations sitting in unmarked cars glassing fish runners and bust DOZENS of guys per night at various back bay hot spots. Or set up on the beach as an undercover fisherperson just walking the water's edge with a rigged rod watching the rampant poaching.

8 out of 10 times, if they're bait fishing with bells and glow sticks on their rods, chances are somethings getting kept/killed illegally...

[hammer4reel]

Originally Posted by shrimpman steve

These guys aren’t going to buy licenses. Come on. They don’t respect the bag limit law what makes anyone think they’ll obey a license law. Not gonna happen. Same theory as when you outlaw guns only outlaws will have guns.

As far as Floridas license. You should see the free public ramps here. New, concrete, beautiful. Funded by licensing

That money comes from the federal excise tax that all Florida licensed fisherman pay on all tackle .

By having a license they get millions back they paid in those taxes to fund projects to promote fishing .

NJ anglers pay millions in that same tax and don’t get 5 cents of it back .


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[Duffman]

This may come off as a completely stupid question……

I watch/am addicted to outdoor shows and have seen every episode of Northwoods/Lonestar Law. Seems like Maine/New Hampshire and Texas really have their shit together when it comes to enforcement of wildlife laws. Grant it, I realize they are made for tv shows but they really seem to have a presence out in the field.

I’m lucky if I encounter one CO a year. Why?

And FWIW, post a CO on the Eastern side jetty of Morgan inlet in the spring. That alone would cut the poaching down by a ton!

[hammer4reel]

Originally Posted by Duffman

This may come off as a completely stupid question……

I watch/am addicted to outdoor shows and have seen every episode of Northwoods/Lonestar Law. Seems like Maine/New Hampshire and Texas really have their shit together when it comes to enforcement of wildlife laws. Grant it, I realize they are made for tv shows but they really seem to have a presence out in the field.

I’m lucky if I encounter one CO a year. Why?

Other states really enforce the laws . And many of them take the gear your using at that time .
If NJ did that it would have to slow it down some . (At least until the guy bought a new rod and reel )


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[reason162]

If they can guarantee a flat % of license fees goes towards enforcement budget, then I'm all for it.

[dales529]

Originally Posted by reason162

If they can guarantee a flat % of license fees goes towards enforcement budget, then I'm all for it.

And money goes to recreational fishing conservation vs a General NJ budget
with a % for Law enforcement , % for NJF&Game, % for NJDEP etc etc I would support it. But we know thats not the case

[Ol Pedro]

Originally Posted by dales529

And money goes to recreational fishing conservation vs a General NJ budget
with a % for Law enforcement , % for NJF&Game, % for NJDEP etc etc I would support it. But we know thats not the case

With this current governer the DFG would be lucky to get any of the proceeds from a saltwater license to where they will do any good. It would be diverted to fund his other projects. Look at the fuel tax. Anyone seen any improvement in our roads?
I agree that something has to be done. Without stricter penalties it will continue to happen. It has to be not worth the risk. In California they confiscate equipment/boats/cars involved in poaching for profit.

[JSBlue26]

This is kinda related to the above post. Just last week a boat out of Point Pleasant did a sea trial in the ocean & happen to stumble across stripers. They caught and released every one. When they returned to the slip there was the game warden. They explained to the Warden what they did and were issued a citation because of the season being closed even though nothing was kept ! Just a heads up for all of us......and I Agree that a saltwater fishing license is not the answer. Honesty is, but unfortunately it’s rare these days with the bag & size limits. Hopefully it’ll discourage those who do poach any fish in NJ.

[Duffman]

Originally Posted by JSBlue26

This is kinda related to the above post. Just last week a boat out of Point Pleasant did a sea trial in the ocean & happen to stumble across stripers. They caught and released every one. When they returned to the slip there was the game warden. They explained to the Warden what they did and were issued a citation because of the season being closed even though nothing was kept ! Just a heads up for all of us......and I Agree that a saltwater fishing license is not the answer. Honesty is, but unfortunately it’s rare these days with the bag & size limits. Hopefully it’ll discourage those who do poach any fish in NJ.

I’m confused as to what season is closed and why they were issued a citation?