Whiting @ Wegmans= disgrace...

[bulletbob]

Here's what WE would do..


Set up on pile of rubble.. Drop rigs down.. Small tog.. One after another.. We move, or let everything go..

Porgies, sea bass.. same deal..

Fluke in the rivers, bays beachfront.. Most too small?.. We leave and go find bigger ones, or stay, and let what we catch go...

Draggers set up on small fish??.. Dead stinking masses piled 6 feet high.... bob

[courbeco]

Originally Posted by Capt Sal Cathy Sea Charters

The Belford boys net spike whiting because they can. They depleted the whiting to almost extinction and now they net the babies. Very hard to have any respect for these guys.

Capt. Sal,

You are right on the money. The Belford and the Point Boys wiped the stocks out. Agreed, it is difficult to have respect for these guys.

[Capt. Debbie]

Wegman's is considered a high end grocer? Really?

Originally Posted by dakota560

This is exactly why every regulation they put on the books will be ignored. Wegman's, Whole Foods, King's all the high end retailers who charge outlandish amount for their products. We suffer the seasonal and daily indignities of keeping an honest day's catch and throw back fish so commercial and corporate concerns can pilfer the ocean and profit from our quota reductions. As far as I'm concerned, I'll regulate what is acceptable and not acceptable aboard my boat which I pay like many probably $13k to $15k a year to operate. Will certainly not keep small juvenile fish but quality fish for the table whether they meet the bureaucrats criteria of legal or not will be filleted and enjoyed as diner at my home as opposed to being thrown back to subsidize the stock so the aforementioned commercial and corporate concerns can charge outrageous prices to consumers for fish at our collective expense. As always this is about profits. OUR resource is being taken away from us so government, large private commercial and Corporate interests can take more of that resource for themselves and make massive amounts of money in the process. Recreational anglers carry the economy on their shoulders yet we get the short end of the stick year in and year out. As long as atrocities like 4 or 5 inch whiting being sold at retail continue, in my opinion there are no justifiable regulations to be observed. When the powers to be start fairly representing recreational concerns and take our interests into consideration then I'll be more than happy to be governed by their legislation. Until then I'll take my chances back at the dock.

Dakota

Originally Posted by Capt. Frank

Wegman's is considered a high end grocer? Really?

Capt. Frank,

That was your take away from my entire post? REALLY? I was referring to the comment about the high price Wegman's was charging for whiting and other seafood as mentioned in the original posters thread. Does high price sit better with you?

Dakota

[Capt Joe]

Originally Posted by courbeco

capt. Sal,

you are right on the money. The belford and the point boys wiped the stocks out. Agreed, it is difficult to have respect for these guys.

100% correct!

[bulletbob]

Originally Posted by Capt Joe

100% correct!

Can these netters REALLY make money on tiny fish like the whiting I saw??.
Seems to me, if thats what they must bring to market these days, it might be time to move on to other employment... bob

[jigman90]

and you wonder why I didn't go to Washington because I wasn't walking next to commercial fisherman allowed to rape our oceans!

[FASTEDDIE29]

I grew up caching Whiting off a few choice beaches in NJ, mind you I'm only 38 years old. They were a blast to catch and I believe my father and I used to call the bigger ones BATS as in baseball bats. All I remember is some good times catching these fish off the beach in the mid 80's and enjoying a great meal. One of our family staples at Yankee game was bringing a 2 pack of smoked Whiting to the game to snack on with some pretzels. Great memories! They'll be whipped out in no time the way things are going now! Another great memory, another huge loss!!!

[Reel Class]

Bob,

All a product of NE commercial boats vaccuming them up like they did here 30 years ago.

Whiting are making an ever so slight comeback (at least there are a few being caught down here again) but to ever have this fishery get where it was, for so long, is a pipe dream.

Their commercial value is over the top and for comm's, they are easy to locate and even easier to catch.

Sad stuff!

[Capt. Debbie]

Obviously not all you said. But the only part that was not already known.

You dont frequent Asian food markets much? In north NJ there are LOTS!! Their stuff is frequently patently illegal. So no surprise that baby fish are being sold.

NJ has a crab limit of 4.5 inches and they have 1/2 a bushel of 3- 3 1/2inchers all year long. TOTALLY illegal to possess them in NJ no matter where caught. But done EVERY DAMN DAY.

Unfortunately I guess I have gotten used to "Special" rules with illegal fish and crabs sold every day in legitimate super markets. .. Hence Wegman being a high end place was the news to me.

But I do appreciate what you're trying to do by pointing this outrageous crap out ( not about Wegmans ).

Originally Posted by dakota560

Capt. Frank,

That was your take away from my entire post? REALLY? I was referring to the comment about the high price Wegman's was charging for whiting and other seafood as mentioned in the original posters thread. Does high price sit better with you?

Dakota