Some Comments on Fluke

[buckfin732]

The commerical guys put their money with lobbist who produce for the money they are given.We give our money to the "We dont have a Offical opnion"RFA that is just glad that we have a season.Maybe we should take a lesson from the commerical guys and back a lobbist instead of pissing our money away IMO.

[Ryan W]

Originally Posted by buckfin732

The commerical guys put their money with lobbist who produce for the money they are given.We give our money to the "We dont have a Offical opnion"RFA that is just glad that we have a season.Maybe we should take a lesson from the commerical guys and back a lobbist instead of pissing our money away IMO.

Please tell me how much you donated so that when you decide to stop "pissing your money away" I can write a check out of my own pocket to pick up the slack.


You're telling me the RFA doesn't produce? They're completely not "just glad we have a season", they want the most quota/poundage for us RECREATIONAL anglers to have. The allowable poundage went UP this year and went UP last year too thanks to RFA/SSFFF. As you can tell from this thread, people who support the RFA are divided among options. Dmac likes one option, myself Adam and others like another option, and Tony,Howard and others like yet another choice. They all have valid reasons for their opinions and certainly should voice them along with their reasons. Why on earth should the RFA come up with an "official position" that represents what only a fraction of their members think? No matter what option they support only a fraction of their membership agrees with it. If you like a particular option so strongly, go to the meeting and speak. That's called "Democracy" where the committee listens to people comment and picks an option based on that. The committee didn't make some backroom deal, they listened to who showed up and made their choice based on that. That's what democracy is all about.

[buckfin732]

Well get ready to dust off the check book then Ryan because i donate $200.00 a year and last year my business donated $200.00 also.Trust me i know alot of people that feel the way i do.I own a small business and can not get away much but i trust that a group like the RFA would have fishermans best intrest at heart.But they proved that is not true when you give bag limit away knowing that you will never get it back.If it is so much easier to catch 17.5 fish like the south jersey guys are saying then landings are going to be way up and what does that lead to overfishing.But here is the rub,even the flawed science guys are saying the stock is rebuilt so why on earth did we have to lose fish even at 17.5 we could of kept it at 8 fish bag .That is what the RFA should be fighting for. You tell me when is the last time that you seen a bag limit go back up with out us spending a shitload of money for Private people to come in and evaluate the stock.What happens when the people that fish get tired of spending money for little return and stop donating.Then what no money to debunk the bad science and we are even worst off then we are now with losing 3 fish.

[DMac]

Bottom line I was in favor of any option that kept the size at 18 and 8 fish.
I would have been fine not even changing it from previous year in hope storm like Irene wouldn't come shut it down. The majority of the vote even though it was fraction of entire member list felt that way too. I know the desire to possibly keep a few fish from 17.5-18, but I don't see it honestly making that much of a difference, but I will track it and admit if I was wrong. Considering releasing them all for others to take home.

[Detour66]

I like the new rules.... just fine with me. 5 @ 17.5 is plenty of fish and who's not to say you will not catch bigger fish! 3 guys on the boat = 15 fish if all limit out... that's more than enough fish to fillet and eat! I threw back so many 17.5's the last few years it wasn't even funny. Finally some good news IMHO!

[JOHN D]

lets not forget that 17.5 is the MINIMUM size limit, if you guys dont like the reduced size (like myself) you dont have to keep them just take the bigger ones and throw the 17.5 inchers back.

[Pete]

This is and will be my final comment regarding this matter. If you didn't show , oh well. If you showed and your comments or desires didn't work out, oh well. That's life!

WE had better move forward and come up with a solution.

This battle has ended. Lick our wounds and move forward.

Pointing at him, me, or anyone else is now pointless.

Let's hope the entire fishing community unites.

[Detour66]

There has been a some of talk that we will go over our allotted catch for the season which is possible and then next year they will cut us down to 3 or 2 fish per man. All I know is monday - friday except for holidays the bay and ocean are dead! Very few boats fishing. It's the weekends when the masses come out to fish. And if we have bad weather on the weekend the waters have hardly been fished for a week. It almost seems to me that all there "scientific information" is taken on Saturday and Sunday. Because if it was taken during the week. THEY WOULD OWE US BIGTIME! This is what we have to look into.. THINK ABOUT IT! Something doesnt seem right to me? K

[Ryan W]

Originally Posted by buckfin732

Well get ready to dust off the check book then Ryan because i donate $200.00 a year and last year my business donated $200.00 also.Trust me i know alot of people that feel the way i do.I own a small business and can not get away much but i trust that a group like the RFA would have fishermans best intrest at heart.But they proved that is not true when you give bag limit away knowing that you will never get it back.If it is so much easier to catch 17.5 fish like the south jersey guys are saying then landings are going to be way up and what does that lead to overfishing.But here is the rub,even the flawed science guys are saying the stock is rebuilt so why on earth did we have to lose fish even at 17.5 we could of kept it at 8 fish bag .That is what the RFA should be fighting for. You tell me when is the last time that you seen a bag limit go back up with out us spending a shitload of money for Private people to come in and evaluate the stock.What happens when the people that fish get tired of spending money for little return and stop donating.Then what no money to debunk the bad science and we are even worst off then we are now with losing 3 fish.

I'll dust off my checkbook, it's a better use of my time than trying to reason with you.