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Old 06-29-2010, 03:09 PM
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Default Re: Small Boat - Hudson Canyon

Cap,

The only thing I have additional is an Epirb...and I'm in the Chicken with my 24' single engine pretty frequently... but that’s only 52 miles...and your adding 30 plus miles to that..The weather window is probably the most important thing as with such a small boat you'd take a beating. As for the comment about the guys in Florida...if they had an Epirb they'd all probably still be alive as it gives out your exact location for the coast guard rescue..In fact from my memory the only thing they had were survival suits and nothing else, not even portable VHF. When are you heading out…I’m leaving Belmar tomorrow for the Chicken…At least you’d have company for most of the ride.

Andrew
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Old 06-29-2010, 03:25 PM
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Cap,

The only thing I have additional is an Epirb...and I'm in the Chicken with my 24' single engine pretty frequently... but that’s only 52 miles...and your adding 30 plus miles to that..The weather window is probably the most important thing as with such a small boat you'd take a beating. As for the comment about the guys in Florida...if they had an Epirb they'd all probably still be alive as it gives out your exact location for the coast guard rescue..In fact from my memory the only thing they had were survival suits and nothing else, not even portable VHF. When are you heading out…I’m leaving Belmar tomorrow for the Chicken…At least you’d have company for most of the ride.

Andrew
Actually, if they had cut the anchor line they would prob still be alive.
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Old 06-29-2010, 05:08 PM
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Actually, if they had cut the anchor line they would prob still be alive.
Yeah,

"That to"...morons didn't want to lose an anchor...can you imagine
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Old 06-29-2010, 05:19 PM
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back up might sound good, but you won't have room for the needed gear for an offshore canyon trip as well as shark trip, I've done it and on my boat its tight and I refuse to do it anymore...its one or the other, and if we cant get in the intended trip as planned we probably shouldn't be going anywhere offshore and should wait until its in reach. Watch the weather, Thursdays report and Sat both got a little worse so that leaves potential for Fri to be worse then forcasted originally, bt then again it could turn back the other way just keep any eye out and be safe and like I said watch the texas tower weather bouy for actual sea conditions, thats always your best report. As soon as the water pushes closer and makes the run more worthwhile I will be making the run to the canyon regularly so if I'm heading out your more then welcome to run along side me, I cruise at 24-26kts depending on conditions so we could keep up fairly well. I also have autopilot so following me will keep you on course a lot easier. Running without ones a nightmare...especially at night...been there done that...never ever again!!
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Old 06-30-2010, 12:11 PM
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Default Re: Small Boat - Hudson Canyon- FLORIDA GUYS

I read the book(NOT WITHOUT HOPE) by the survivor ( I USE IT IN MY BOATING CLASSES. IT'S A GOLD MINE OF LESSONS). It was a single O/B 20 footer 70 miles off Clearwater Florida in February 2009.

Contrary to popular opinion no one was drunk. There was no EPIRB. There was no time for a MAYDAY. And there was no float plan. Just knew where they fished the week before.

His anchor fouled in 6-7 footers. Capt. was pissed he lost an anchor the prior week. He snugs up the anchor line until it's nearly straight up and down. Ties it to the transom RINGS( the ones on the outside of the boat) and guns the engine hard to rip the anchor free. The anchor stays snagged and going forward hard under heavy power pulls the notched transom under water.

Capt. panics backs off throttle very quickly. The strain still in the fouled anchor line slides the boat's notched transom straight back into a 6 foot roller. Scooping up tons of water in a second or two.

The crew tried to counter balance the swamped boat in 6-7' rollers. Needless to say it flipped in less than 10 seconds. Their boat rode capsized, O/B up for 43 hours before the sole survivor was found. 2 of the 4 on board died in less than 24 hours from hypothermia and salt water ingestion(dementia). The 3rd of the 4 lasted another day. He took off his life jacket and just dove to the bottom killing himself.


A great book to learn A LOT FROM.




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Cap,

The only thing I have additional is an Epirb...and I'm in the Chicken with my 24' single engine pretty frequently... but that’s only 52 miles...and your adding 30 plus miles to that..The weather window is probably the most important thing as with such a small boat you'd take a beating. As for the comment about the guys in Florida...if they had an Epirb they'd all probably still be alive as it gives out your exact location for the coast guard rescue..In fact from my memory the only thing they had were survival suits and nothing else, not even portable VHF. When are you heading out…I’m leaving Belmar tomorrow for the Chicken…At least you’d have company for most of the ride.

Andrew
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