Hook and Line Permits

[MartyS]

Originally Posted by Bird Chaser

I am friends with one of these fishermen. I can tell you that he works very hard for his money. And I can also tell you that he is not getting rich anytime soon from his work. What he is doing is simply trying to make a living, and a modest living at best. He doesn't make the rules however he does abide by them. If you don't like what he is doing, that's your call, but he is not doing anything illegal. As far as the 400 lbs a day, they are lucky if they come in with 100 lbs.

I am just curious to know why the Angler was there fishing for Fluke right next to these guys?

I know this reply won't be popular with most of the people on this site, but I am just telling it like it is.

I don't doubt these fisherman work hard to make a living. My issue is that the fisheries are a limited resource, they are not owned by any government, and I think that everyone should have the opportunity to fish at the same time. I have a problem with certain people being given an advantage as is the case here. Again, nothing against those pinhookers personally, I understand that are acting within the law.

What is the problem with the Angler catching and releasing fluke next to your friends? Maybe party boat captains work hard for a living too.

[tautog]

They were fishing a charity catch and release charter for underprivileged kids. Fluke are the easiest thing for these young novices to catch. Some must have been confused when the saw other boats keeping them as I am sure their families could use a few fillets.

[Bird Chaser]

Marty I didn't say I had a problem with the Angler fishing for fluke. I said I was curious, because as we all know the season is not open yet.

[codbuster]

amen

[Life's A Beach]

Everyone has to earn a living. It would be nice if the recreational fisherman wasn't always getting the short end of the stick though.

If the season is open within state waters for pin hookers, then it should be open for recreational fishermen also. and if said commercial fishermen are in state waters then they should have to abide by the same size limit as the recreational guys.

Is the permit for ONE MAN in ONE BOAT to catch 400# per day? THAT would be a good day, even keeping 14" fish. If it's per boat............3 or 4 guys pulling.........at the Bug Light, this time of year.........HOME FOR LUNCH















I'd LOVE to see an ACCURATE account of how many WINTER flounder are caught/harvested in 2010. With no one fishing for them recreationally........the numbers have to be 90% commercial.

[broken bobber]

Senseless post as ALL THE ACTIVITIES mentioned are totally legal.... It's not like no one knows of these permits... like they just fell out of the sky and landed on these boats where ever the are docked....

And ... if ya dont know now ya know.....

[msgold]

Originally Posted by broken bobber

Senseless post as ALL THE ACTIVITIES mentioned are totally legal.... It's not like no one knows of these permits... like they just fell out of the sky and landed on these boats where ever the are docked....

And ... if ya dont know now ya know.....

I am not going to get into any crazy battles with you, but I could. Senseless Post to you, might not be for everyone else. I forgot you know everything "it's been a long time". As Lab said it would have been nice to start Fluke fishing May 2nd, we should all have the same start date. Just my opinion.

[El Pescador]

They should issue more of these permits its much better than scraping the bottom dry with trawlers and throwing back dead bycatch..

[broken bobber]

Originally Posted by msgold

I am not going to get into any crazy battles with you, but I could. Senseless Post to you, might not be for everyone else. I forgot you know everything "it's been a long time". As Lab said it would have been nice to start Fluke fishing May 2nd, we should all have the same start date. Just my opinion.

But you could ? ...hahahahah.....No battles needed....you are crying over something that is totally legal.... And if Capt G didnt mention it to you ya would still be clueless over it.... But again as others stated, its legal and the few who have these permits are putting food on their families table like you, me and anyone else here that works and I DON'T begrudge that....

or maybe the first trip we dont get a fluke limit i will publicly blame these permit holders...how rediculous is that....

if ya dont like the rules...lobby to have them changed, but get there before 6pm

[CaptTB]

Originally Posted by Life's A Beach

Everyone has to earn a living. It would be nice if the recreational fisherman wasn't always getting the short end of the stick though.

If the season is open within state waters for pin hookers, then it should be open for recreational fishermen also. and if said commercial fishermen are in state waters then they should have to abide by the same size limit as the recreational guys.

Why? They are not recreational fishermen. The fish they catch do not come from the recreational quota. These are commercial hook and line fishermen. It has nothing to do with you, with recreational fish or recreational fishermen. They have their own quota (commercial) that they fish on, same as a potter, same as a dragger.

Should the draggers only be allowed to fish when you can? Most hook and line permits have a limit to the number of pullers, but that is irrelevant.

Whether there are 2 or 10, it is no different than how many people work on a dragger. The fish are not going home in your cooler, they are being sold like every other commercially caught fish. The boat has both a limit to how many people can fish and it has a trip limit, just like a dragger.

Why are we even talking about LEGAL commercial fluke fishing in this forum? Why even start a post about a legal form of commercial fishing that is less destructive to the environment and fish than any other form of commercial fishing and that has existed since the dawn of time. Commercial hook and line permits have existed for decades. They have a quota, we have a quota. They can fish when their quota is available. Their quota is broken up into 4 parts and 4 time periods. At any point the quota for a given period is caught, they are shut down and cannot begin fishing again till the next time period opens.

Why wasn't anyone pissing and moaning when the commercial boats were catching fluke in January and February?