Jack Ciattarelli Stance on NJ Outdoors

[Gerry Zagorski]

Originally Posted by NoLimit

Everyone should take the time to check out this link....This fellow rattles off lots of details on what needs to change. Does it make sense for the recreational fisher? BTW, why do they call it recreational. My family heritage places a high degree of importance on eating real food. My dad said if you cant find it in a field, forest or at the end of a fishing line, its not real food. Eating fish and game; growing fruits and veggies - its really a way of life that should not be outlawed.

I know first hand there are a lot of people in the fishing community who have taken the time to brief Jack on what’s been going on with our marine fisheries. At first he was thinking it was the people in our state representing us but that’s not the case. It’s these regional and federal entities like the ASMFC who give the states their quotas and all our state people get to do is divide up the scraps they throw us. The Murphy administration has also left 2 key positions open on our Marine Council a Public and a Sportfish representative. We need those positions filled to round out the council.

[hammer4reel]

Originally Posted by Gerry Zagorski

I know first hand there are a lot of people in the fishing community who have taken the time to brief Jack on what’s been going on with our marine fisheries. At first he was thinking it was the people in our state representing us but that’s not the case. It’s these regional and federal entities like the ASMFC who give the states their quotas and all our state people get to do is divide up the scraps they throw us. The Murphy administration has also left 2 key positions open on our Marine Council a Public and a Sportfish representative. We need those positions filled to round out the council.

Thought those spots were filled some time ago .I believe Greg Hueth has one of those two seats now

Tried looking it up , fisherman mag had an artical back in April , but can’t open it online

[dales529]

Originally Posted by AndyS

bUt sHe FLieS a HeLIcOPter !

Are you OK? Just checking

[dales529]

Originally Posted by hammer4reel

Oh so you finally not voting blue . Because Mikie has missed more votes than she had made by a Long shot just in the last few months she has missed 55 of 63 votes

Time for a Governor that makes state workers go back to the office and stop working from home .
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Hi Dan LOL/ As much as I have been an advocate for our fishing rights not sure I can cross that line yet! JC has too many "other" policy ideas I am not aligned with. Also JC was a NJ Assemblyman from 2011 to 2018. Why did he not care about Recreational Fishing rights in NJ then???? I never saw him at a meeting / rally etc and nothing except talk now on his 3rd try for Gov. His policies certainly only cater to "some" workers.

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[dales529]

Originally Posted by Gerry Zagorski

Just a wild guess but I don't think the audience of NJ outdoors enthusiasts would have been pleased with what her stance would be on these issues

https://www.njoutdooralliance.org/20...al-candidates/

I apologize but how can JC state anything Science based and run as a conservative?? Science left the building last Jan . RFK JR and you know who would have a fit if someone said science.

[Broad Bill]

Originally Posted by hammer4reel

Thought those spots were filled some time ago . I believe Greg Hueth has one of those two seats now

Tried looking it up , fisherman mag had an article back in April , but can’t open it online

Salt water quotas are set through a collaborative process between the Mid-Atlantic Fishery Management Council (MAFMC), NMFS (NOAA Fisheries) and ASMFC. ASMFC and MAFMC develops and recommends fishery management plans (FMPs) and quota specifications based on scientific advice provided by North East Fisheries Science Center (NEFSC), while NMFS approves and implements these regulations to ensure they prevent overfishing if you can believe that. MAFMC and ASMFC proposes the limits, and NMFS has the authority to implement, and sometimes modify, those limits to meet the requirements of the Magnuson-Stevens Act. The level we need to get to is the NMFS or federal because that's where the problem starts and where high level decisions and quotas are set. Atlantic States Marine Fisheries Commission (ASMFC) directly regulates allocating a portion of those limits to individual member states for their respective region. MAFMC is responsible for the EEZ, ASMFC waters inside the EEZ.

The New Jersey Marine Fisheries Council is a volunteer panel of 11 members appointed by the governor, with the consent of the Senate, including four sports fishermen, two commercial fin fishermen, one fish processor, two general public members, and the chairman of each of the two sections of the Shellfisheries Council. As of September 2025, the council members included Acting Chair Richard N. Herb, Dr. Eleanor Ann Bochenek, Dr. Patrick Donnelly, Warren Hollinger, Walter L. Johnson III, Jeff Kaelin, Joe Rizzo, Robert R. Rush, Jr., and Kevin Wark, with two vacant seats.

Greg Hueth (obligatory seat) is one of two Members of the federally appointment MAFMC from New Jersey, alongside designated state official Joseph Cimino who is director of New Jersey's Marine Resources Administration. Greg, to my knowledge, isn't on the New Jersey Marine Fisheries Council (NJMFC) which I believe is the agency Gerry was referring to in his post.

It's no wonder fisheries management is so screwed up when you consider how it's structured, one layer on top of another. Just like everything else in government, way too many politicians and agencies with everyone trying to skim the cash register while making decisions more beneficial to themselves than the resource they're supposed to be managing.

[hammer4reel]

Originally Posted by Broad Bill

Salt water quotas are set through a collaborative process between the Mid-Atlantic Fishery Management Council (MAFMC), NMFS (NOAA Fisheries) and ASMFC. ASMFC and MAFMC develops and recommends fishery management plans (FMPs) and quota specifications based on scientific advice provided by North East Fisheries Science Center (NEFSC), while NMFS approves and implements these regulations to ensure they prevent overfishing if you can believe that. MAFMC and ASMFC proposes the limits, and NMFS has the authority to implement, and sometimes modify, those limits to meet the requirements of the Magnuson-Stevens Act. The level we need to get to is the NMFS or federal because that's where the problem starts and where high level decisions and quotas are set. Atlantic States Marine Fisheries Commission (ASMFC) directly regulates allocating a portion of those limits to individual member states for their respective region. MAFMC is responsible for the EEZ, ASMFC waters inside the EEZ.

The New Jersey Marine Fisheries Council is a volunteer panel of 11 members appointed by the governor, with the consent of the Senate, including four sports fishermen, two commercial fin fishermen, one fish processor, two general public members, and the chairman of each of the two sections of the Shellfisheries Council. As of September 2025, the council members included Acting Chair Richard N. Herb, Dr. Eleanor Ann Bochenek, Dr. Patrick Donnelly, Warren Hollinger, Walter L. Johnson III, Jeff Kaelin, Joe Rizzo, Robert R. Rush, Jr., and Kevin Wark, with two vacant seats.

Greg Hueth (obligatory seat) is one of two Members of the federally appointment MAFMC from New Jersey, alongside designated state official Joseph Cimino who is director of New Jersey's Marine Resources Administration. Greg, to my knowledge, isn't on the New Jersey Marine Fisheries Council (NJMFC) which I believe is the agency Gerry was referring to in his post.

It's no wonder fisheries management is so screwed up when you consider how it's structured, one layer on top of another. Just like everything else in government, way too many politicians and agencies with everyone trying to skim the cash register while making decisions more beneficial to themselves than the resource they're supposed to be managing.

That’s the issue with you cut and paste guys . While Nj is lazy updating those pages in FW site .
Those seats were filled , and they had all 11 seated at the April meeting .
Greg told me himself while shad fishing on the Delaware , and Hutch wrote about it in April .
Apparently those seats were directed to be filled months before the remaining red tape was done taking almost another year






In late spring 2024, Governor Phil Murphy nominated Greg Hueth and John Tiedemann to fill vacant seats on the New Jersey Marine Fisheries Council. However, as of January 2025, only Tiedemann's nomination had been listed as "considered" by the state Senate.
Status of the nominations
Greg Hueth: Nominated for a sportfishing seat, but as of January 2025, the Senate Judiciary Committee had not confirmed his nomination. Hueth is a head boat captain out of Belmar.
John Tiedemann: Nominated for an "at large" public seat and listed as "considered" by the Senate Judiciary Committee in November 2024. Tiedemann is a professor at Monmouth University






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[Broad Bill]

Originally Posted by hammer4reel

That’s the issue with you cut and paste guys .
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I was just trying to help Dan, no need to make it personal. Exactly the reason I said "To my knowledge". "Cut and paste guy", don't think so and don't appreciate being characterized that way. We've known one another a long time, you don't deserve that disrespect and I'm damn sure I don't.

[NoLimit]

[QUOTE=Broad Bill;590897]Salt water quotas are set through a collaborative process between the Mid-Atlantic Fishery Management Council (MAFMC), NMFS (NOAA Fisheries) and ASMFC. ASMFC and MAFMC develops and recommends fishery management plans (FMPs) and quota specifications based on scientific advice provided by North East Fisheries Science Center (NEFSC), while NMFS approves and implements these regulations to ensure they prevent overfishing if you can believe that”

How can this be believed? In the case of fluke, they are killing the breeders and letting all the males die of old age. But we are being told not to believe our lying eyes. The whole system is tainted and needs to be fixed.

[hammer4reel]

[QUOTE=NoLimit;590900]

Originally Posted by Broad Bill

Salt water quotas are set through a collaborative process between the Mid-Atlantic Fishery Management Council (MAFMC), NMFS (NOAA Fisheries) and ASMFC. ASMFC and MAFMC develops and recommends fishery management plans (FMPs) and quota specifications based on scientific advice provided by North East Fisheries Science Center (NEFSC), while NMFS approves and implements these regulations to ensure they prevent overfishing if you can believe that”

How can this be believed? In the case of fluke, they are killing the breeders and letting all the males die of old age. But we are being told not to believe our lying eyes. The whole system is tainted and needs to be fixed.

Our catch isn’t doing shit to hurt the fluke fishery . Smoke and mirrors .
Fluke fishery is being destroyed by the NC commercial fleet from NC past Massachusetts.
While everyone else gets the blame passed to them , the landings for those 7 days boats way exceeds their fishery .
So they hit everyone else’s waters outside the 3 mile line and take them back to the NC processing plants .

.unless that stops , which it won’t everything else don’t mean crap

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