Great Opening Weekend ...... Wonder Rig Strikes Again !!!

[june181901]

Every few years Arbutis put his thought on here to help others. He is not selling a damn thing. I can't understand all the animus this man receives.
Thanks Arbutis for trying to help others!

[Arbutis]

Holy cow!


some people just don't get it.

[NoLimit]

Originally Posted by damnyankee

Arbutis - I believe you when you say you are trying to pass on information to a new group, but the way you package it is very misleading and leads to reactions like mine and, from what you referred to past controversy, others in the past. The fact is, you didn't invent anything, just put lipstick on a pig and called it a cow, yet call yourself the inventor of a new rig. There is no controversy about that. Posting pics of catching keeper fluke on a small hook is about as useful as posting a pic of me catching a keeper tog on an ava jig (that was actually posted by Joey Tomatoes a few days ago). What I mean is, just because it works in certain conditions, or works on a fluke occurrence like the ava jig tog, doesn't mean it's new or even the best method available. Like every tactic in fishing, it is all based on conditions like tide, water temp, wind direction, drift speed, depth, current, etc. All of these factor in to what bait or rig to use that will be the most effective at that particular moment. To come on here and tout that a bait dragger rig with a smaller hook is revolutionary and the best method for any condition is simply passing on bad advice to new people. A broken clock is correct twice a day...

Blah Blah Blah...If you have not fished the Wonder Rig, you dont know what it is about. It is ENTIRELY different from a bait dragger rig - which is hard to visualize if you are a knuckle dragger

[damnyankee]

Originally Posted by NoLimit

Blah Blah Blah...If you have not fished the Wonder Rig, you dont know what it is about. It is ENTIRELY different from a bait dragger rig - which is hard to visualize if you are a knuckle dragger

There is no hate here, just questioning motivation and perception of the OP. Well, I'm not a knuckle dragger, so hopefully I will understand. Please explain to me how the WONDER RIG is radically different from a standard bait dragger. Here's what I understand it to be:

Set up for bait dragger:

leader from main line is connected to 3 way swivel
top eye ofswivel is connected to a trailing hook
bottom eye of swivel is connected to sinker and/or bucktail

Set up for WONDER RIG:

leader from main line is connected to 3 way swivel
top eye of swivel is connected to a trailing hook
bottom eye of swivel is connected to bucktail

From what I understand the thing that makes it the WONDER RIG is only the line and hook sizes, is that correct?

If that is correct, and your assertion is that those things make it an entirely new invention, that logic would apply to any configuration. Hence, every common rig can be classified a new invention by changing the line size, line length, and/or hook size. So take a snafu rig for example: instead of using the recommended size hooks, I change it to a smaller hook, say a 1/0, and I am in my right to declare I've invented a new rig, and can promote it as such. According to what I understand you all are trying to say, I have a right to say I am an inventor of a new rig. Is that correct?

[Blackfish Bobby]

It's just useless.
Nice work on some WONDERful fish today Doug !!! Hope to hit the river tomorrow afternoon and Saturday.... Just retied my WONDER RIGS.
Tight lines to all and to all tight lines.....

Mr. WONDERful

[Skolmann]

As I’ve said, I’ve been fishing the described “ Wonder Rig” for the past 20+ years-long before this forum was around. The only difference between the rig I used was the hook size. I used a #1-1/0 on a very light leader. Not the #4 hook that the Wonder Rig calls for. I originally used a bank sinker until jigs/bucktails became the rage. But since the original Wonder Rig had the hook cut off the jig I see no real difference. So I understand what DammYankee is saying.

[bulletbob]

Try 2 smaller fine wire hooks, around #2 size, about 18 inches apart with a killie or spearing on each one.. Use a big split shot either before or after the hooks doesn;t matter either way... Fluke after fluke after fluke.. On a decent day you run out of bait before the fish quit hitting the rig.. Its a "wonder rig" without the "wonder"..

Not many guys use finesse when fluke fishing, and thats basically what the wonder rig is doing.. Fluke get every bit as excited seeing 2 killies or spearing following one another as they do seeing a killie following a jig with the hook hacked off..

The plain old fluke "dragging rig" works but is not the best setup for shallow water.. Too much junk... Try a big split shot or 2 of 1/4 oz, instead... Hell you can even paint them, if it makes you feel better, but for me, there was never a need to.... bob

[Blackfish Bobby]

So let's all review ...shall we ?

1. My little report and attempt to share information about a rig that hands down increases catch numbers in the River (and Raritan Bay for me and my boyz) is approaching 3000 Reviews. WOW.... so hopefully it succeeded and many many more drink the real WONDER RIG cool-ade and experience more bends in their rods. Preferably light tackle rods. ( witnessed by me Monday when a girl who never caught a fluke put at least 5 in the boat in 30 minutes once the WONDER RIG was deployed. High fives and hoots and hollers from a rental boat on the Navesink...brought to you by the WONDER RIG..THATS WHAT THIS POST IS ABOUT. THANKS JERRY)
2. This rig when tied as shown on the Arbutis videos and as described in detail in this post is GREAT FOR YOUNG KIDS.
2. ARBUTIS ROCKS !!! HE IS THE "WONDER" MAN....
3. Pigs look good with lipstick on
4. Nobody cares who tied what, used what, sized what.... yesterday or 60 years ago on a Tuesday at 3pm in Raritan Bay...I never asked for that in this
post !!!..Use this board to share meaningful information that helps others spend more time "catching" and enjoying the sport.
5. Watch the the WONDER RIG youtube videos to learn more....the camera does not lie.
6. Big fluke REALLY do not like being hit in the ass with a net !!
7. Blackfish season can not come soon enough

Peace and Love....Peace and Love...... Peace Out....

BBTT Forever

[TomKaye]

I believe this part of BB's post says it all :
Quote :
4. Nobody cares who tied what, used what, sized what.... yesterday or 60 years ago on a Tuesday at 3pm in Raritan Bay...I never asked for that in this
post !!!..Use this board to share meaningful information that helps others spend more time "catching" and enjoying the sport.

Amen BB. If one doesn't like what's shared on this board don't have to read.
Thanks Gerry for maintaining it.
Tight lines all,
Tom K.

[bulletbob]

Originally Posted by Blackfish Bobby

So let's all review ...shall we ?

1. My little report and attempt to share information about a rig that hands down increases catch numbers in the River (and Raritan Bay for me and my boyz) is approaching 3000 Reviews. WOW.... so hopefully it succeeded and many many more drink the real WONDER RIG cool-ade and experience more bends in their rods. Preferably light tackle rods. ( witnessed by me Monday when a girl who never caught a fluke put at least 5 in the boat in 30 minutes once the WONDER RIG was deployed. High fives and hoots and hollers from a rental boat on the Navesink...brought to you by the WONDER RIG..THATS WHAT THIS POST IS ABOUT. THANKS JERRY)
2. This rig when tied as shown on the Arbutis videos and as described in detail in this post is GREAT FOR YOUNG KIDS.
2. ARBUTIS ROCKS !!! HE IS THE "WONDER" MAN....
3. Pigs look good with lipstick on
4. Nobody cares who tied what, used what, sized what.... yesterday or 60 years ago on a Tuesday at 3pm in Raritan Bay...I never asked for that in this
post !!!..Use this board to share meaningful information that helps others spend more time "catching" and enjoying the sport.
5. Watch the the WONDER RIG youtube videos to learn more....the camera does not lie.
6. Big fluke REALLY do not like being hit in the ass with a net !!
7. Blackfish season can not come soon enough

Peace and Love....Peace and Love...... Peace Out....

BBTT Forever

You are absolutely correct.. Kindly accept my apology for throwing my 2 cents in when it wasn't asked for. I get pissed off when it happens on my posts , and I should know better than to do it to others. bob