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Originally Posted by Broad Bill
My reading is fine. You wrote "If they claim the biggest biomass of fish is under 18”, letting them breed an extra year should also be beneficial. I don't see NMFS's name mentioned in your post and it sounds like you agree with the statement. Your words, not mine.
Their information, if you're referring to NMFS still, are their numbers and the accuracy of their data has been in questions for as long as their existence. No different than the accuracy of information you receive from your commercials cronies who will say anything that gives them the ability to further exploit the resource of and increase catch values. You think they're concerned about long term conservation, maybe a few are but the vast majority could care less and are only concerned with how much money goes in their pockets every trip and they'll exploit, kill and discard as much of the resource as necessary to harvest the most valuable fish they can sell back at the docks. Don't be an alter boy.
Yeah I'm an analytical guy and much more, something you'll never be able to comprehend. What's your point? NMFS's information is sketchy but it's the information regulatory decisions are based on and I've used it to prove decisions made by NMFS are wrong based on that very data. Proof they ignore. And you believe your data from commercial guys you know who have a vested interest to provide only information which will serve their best interests is clean. Please, use the the common sense God gave you.
Please provide one fishery you're aware of which has flourished where the breeding population is pounded year round, younger juvenile fish are killed in the process by the millions and larger breeders of both genders are the mandated target of the recreational regulations and where large female breeders, based on your spot on intelligence, are the prime target of commercial netters. And add to that, the stock is actively mugged by commercial concerns during their spawn.
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Since your so analytical think you would have caught the THEY part as to who we were talking about .
I have said the same in reference to commercials hammering this stock at times they shouldn’t be .
But imo it’s the NC fleet doing the damage to these stocks . The smaller guys aren’t allowed those huge landings .
Problem is currently there are no regulations to where the netters can go in federal waters .
Example would be NJ boats allowed to harvest 3000 pounds a week , and just make quota .
But a NC boat takes 30000 from the same area .
Our fishery suffers while they drive that load south .
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Why or how can NJ landing limits help the fishery when all the rest of this is going on .
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And as far as me not understanding your analytics , you can cherry pick anything you want . But you also can’t back it up with actual science because there really isnt any accurate information available to make an ACCURATE finding .
You only want to believe numbers that fit your narrative .
All these findings used for all the graph and chart are based on anecdotal info .
If I was to believe the fishery was just on my actual observations, I would think 20” fish are in abundance .
Reading other guys findings it’s 16” fish. Which possibly is accurate where they are fishing .
