 |
|
Message Board
|
|
 |  | |
 |  | |
 |  | |
 |  | |
 | ||
|
|||||||
| NJFishing.com Best Of This board will be locked from posting and will be used to archive the best posts from the main board. |
|
|
Thread Tools | Display Modes |
|
#11
09-02-2012, 09:40 AM
|
|||
|
|||
Re: cut next year's summer flounder catch by 10 percent
I said it as soon as I saw you guys give up 3 fish for a 1/2 reduction and longer season... Welcome to the Hell that we in NY have suffered for over 5 years...
Never give up your creel limit, thats like giving up your life line, there is no one to blame now but yourselves for thinking you could get back from these scumbag *******s that are the regulators. Just so you know Cass Sunstein, he is the Regulatory Czar and he is a ****ing nut bag. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GaJ8VXYdBrg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OoiHIbwRhSo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flfHZgT-SeI Marching orders from up top... Last edited by Sidewinder; 09-02-2012 at 09:43 AM.. |
|
#12
09-02-2012, 10:28 AM
|
|||
|
|||
|
Re: cut next year's summer flounder catch by 10 percent
Quote:
The quota was already cut for the year we are still fishing in and we said there was not enough quota to do what people wanted. Nevermind, I am tired of spending inordinate amounts of time dealing with fisheries issues only to be told by people who never read a piece of paper, went to a meeting or looked something up on line that they know best and I should stay out of it because I am "one of those Bogans" Next time listen to those that have been doing this shit (fisheries management, not just fishing) for 20+ years. PS - Not saying NJ's regs are the reason for the cut, only that the geniuses that wanted to drop the bag limit and shorten the season to drop a shitty half inch now have nowhere to go but DOWN, DOWN DOWN and we start from a much worse position. Everyone pray the roulette wheel known as MRIP does not come up with NJ's color this year and we may skate by, there is always the chance that MRIP won't come close to what we actually catch (and hopefully lower, not higher)
__________________
CaptTB 125' Jamaica - Big Jamaica.com 100' Paramount - The "Wreckmasters" Save The Summer Flounder Fishery Fund United Boatmen NJOA.org RFA-NJ.org Last edited by CaptTB; 09-02-2012 at 10:31 AM.. |
|
#14
09-02-2012, 12:46 PM
|
|||
|
|||
|
Re: cut next year's summer flounder catch by 10 percent
Quote:
|
|
#15
09-02-2012, 02:31 PM
|
||||
|
||||
Re: cut next year's summer flounder catch by 10 percent
Just cant win.. No matter what we do, in the long run we are the ones getting the short end of the stick.. Nick said it best in his post..
Idk what else to say besides this is BS.. They are never happy.. they will be happy when we cant fish anymore
__________________
 RFA Instagram - salt_life1985 Team F.O.M.F. |
|
#16
09-02-2012, 02:32 PM
|
||||
|
||||
|
Re: cut next year's summer flounder catch by 10 percent
Quote:
SOME of us went to the selection meeting in Toms River and voiced OUR opinion(s). The "Board" made their decision DESPITE what the majority stated they preferred. On a personal note: I hope those that stated they were willing to give up creel limit to get a smaller size limit are man enough to now say their decision was short-sighted and flawed? http://www.njfishing.com/forums/show...ght=fluke+poll |
|
#17
09-02-2012, 04:56 PM
|
||||
|
||||
|
Re: cut next year's summer flounder catch by 10 percent
In what has been probably the best fluke season in the last five years with the amount of quality fish around , I dont think lowering the size limit to 17 1/2 really did that much as most fish were 17 or well over 18 , going by what we caught.
so if anything lowering the bag limit by 3 fish should have kept our landing poundage lower as if it had stayed at 8 there would def have been ALOT more fish kept, and the pounding would have been much higher. curios to see how the new landing numbers reflect that
__________________
Captain Dan Bias Fifty pound + , Striped Bass live release club |
|
#18
09-02-2012, 05:55 PM
|
|||
|
|||
|
Re: cut next year's summer flounder catch by 10 percent
The creel limit should be 6 fish and size 14" and better.
You can not cull, once you catch your limit, that's that. Also you must handle the fish with care as if it was your effing baby, I see too many effing idiots handle fish as if it was worthless, some mates too. You want a good fishery? Well start policing your clientele and show them the proper way of handling their shorts and release them with care... |
|
#19
09-02-2012, 08:33 PM
|
|||
|
|||
|
Re: cut next year's summer flounder catch by 10 percent
The current decision on quota was coming long before any decision was made about 2012 regulations. The 2013 quota is completely unrelated to 2012 regulations. You simply can't relate the two because, at this time, they are completely unrelated. 2012 catch will be integrated in future quota management decisions, but not the 2013 quota. Anyone who makes the argument next year's quota is tied to this year's regulations is grossly misinformed.
What will happen is in December, our 2012 PROJECTED landings will be compared to the 2013 quota. (Irregardless if our 2012 -> 2013 quota went up or down.) If 2012 landings are lower than 2013 quota, we will have the chance to liberalize. If landings = quota, regs will still be same. If landings are greater than quota, then we will reduce. Keep in mind that the regs for this year were DESIGNED to significantly increase landings from 2011 (by nearly 40%). As Tony correctly stated, landings numbers are nothing but a roulette wheel or a crap shoot. Any system that samples less than 1% of what it is supposed to be calculating is catastrophically insufficient for to the number management of anything. If anyone would like to further discuss management, call or e-mail, thanks.
__________________
Capt. Adam Last edited by captadamnj; 09-02-2012 at 10:15 PM.. |
|
#20
09-02-2012, 08:43 PM
|
|||
|
|||
|
Re: cut next year's summer flounder catch by 10 percent
Quote:
__________________
Capt Sal 100 Ton Master Semi Retired |
|
|
Linear Mode
