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View Poll Results: What Is Your Preffered option for the 2024/2025 Fluke Season | |||
Do not choose this option it's a reference for last years regs 5/2-9/27, 2 @ 17 -18 inches and 1 at 18 or more for 149 days | 0 | 0% | |
5/24-9/4, 3 @ 17.5 inches or more for 104 days | 11 | 25.00% | |
6/4-8/31, 1 @ 17 - 18 inches and 2 @ 18 or more for 89 days | 1 | 2.27% | |
5/4-9/25, 3 @ 18 inches or more for 145 days | 22 | 50.00% | |
5/10-6/30, 1 @ 17- 18 inches and 1 @ 18 or more. 7/1- 9/15, 3 @ 18 or more for 129 days | 1 | 2.27% | |
5/16-9/23, 3 @ 18 inches or more by boat and 2 at 17 inches or more from shore for 131 days | 7 | 15.91% | |
5/26-9/13, 1 @ 17.5 inches or more and 2 at 18 inches or more for 111 days | 2 | 4.55% | |
Voters: 44. You may not vote on this poll |
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Basing charts off inaccurate data gets us no where . IMO it makes no difference that recreational fisherman here are keeping fish above 18” because if we weren’t the commercial guys will . IMO the small local commercial boats are also not the problem . As they don’t get a ton of bycatch in their drags . , because their daily limit is so small . The bigger 7 day fleet is absolutely the problem . Both sheer quantities being taken from every states resource . As well as much more discards due to longer drags because of high volume . Making recreational fishing regs that actually closed the season will do nothing IF those larger fish quotas in NC aren’t changed . With fluke down to 60 cents a pound last week , is even more proof the fluke were over fished through the spawn this winter . Commercially So stop trying to make it a recreational fisherman’s problem . .
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Captain Dan Bias Fifty pound + , Striped Bass live release club |
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Please tell me you have me confused with someone else's post on this thread. I've lobbied and advocated for years to change the hardships recreational anglers have endured with these asinine regulations. After everything we've discussed and everything I've posted on this site you think I'm suggesting this is a problem caused by recreational fisherman, you have to be oblivious to what my position has been. If you mean it's a problem recreational anglers have been forced to pay the consequences for, I completely agree. If you're suggesting I've said it's a problem caused by recreational fisherman you're out of your &*^%$%! mind. Sorry to the other members on the site, wasn't expecting such an asinine response.
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Lots of charts and science here but I follow the real scientist.
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The point is even if you lower the size limit to 16", we'll probably still be seeing majority females retained. Further point is, does it even matter re recruitment. Then we circle back to what you consider unreliable data and what the actual scientific community consider settled science. |
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Sounds apropos to the age we live in.
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3 at 171/2
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Looks like the whole list was accepted by ASMFC as written .
See those that care at the meeting in March
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Captain Dan Bias Fifty pound + , Striped Bass live release club |
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So 3 fish at 17.5" with a shorter season, 3 fish at 18" with a longer season, a paper thin slot, no slot, different regulations for southern and northern NJ or different regulations for shore based anglers versus party boats and for hire, does it really matter in the big picture? Decisions have already been made regarding 2024 and 2025 and March's meeting is simply a check the box procedural requirement based on MSA. We can't fight Town Hall, certainly can't fight the Federal government or compete with the commercial sectors funds and lobbying efforts. I don't mean to be a wet rag but whatever is said or decided at the March meeting is irrelevant to the damage already done to this fishery over the last 25 years and it's only getting worse. Last edited by Broad Bill; 02-21-2024 at 09:25 PM.. |
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I see NO reason for recreational fisherman to throw back fish those boats end up taking . Every year they try and put cut backs on the backs of recreational fisherman while allowing a total disregard to those fleets . I truelly don’t understand how the small commercial fisherman aren’t up in arms about it . As I said here a ton of times , a NJ based boat can catch 3000 pounds a week while a NC boat can fish right next to them and take 30000 a week . Makes ZERO sense . Quotas in States no longer having a fishery need to be addressed . As their only taking from all the rest of the states’ AND if you really look at those numbers can you honestly believe recreational discards are double what the commercial are ? Thats saying they discard 1/10 , and we discard 1/4 Bad info in , bad info out
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Captain Dan Bias Fifty pound + , Striped Bass live release club Last edited by hammer4reel; 02-21-2024 at 08:57 PM.. |
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Hammer we're in complete agreement on this. No way are recreational discards anywhere near commercial discards in either absolute numbers or as a percentage of catch or landings. North Carolina and Virginia make up just about 50% of the annual commercial harvest and I assume the 7 day boats you're referring to are from those states. They destroyed the southern stock, fish primarily during fall / winter months as well as during the spawn when fish are in highly concentrated schools and most vulnerable to netting. The waste from their netting I'd bet the ranch exceeds their entire catch quota for the entire year which is a disgrace in how this fishery is being managed. And yes, fish the recreational sector are forced to release are harvested or killed by commercials in their offshore migration in the fall, inshore migration in the spring or while stacked up wintering offshore. It's exactly the same reason we lost the winter flounder fishery, no stock can be pounded year round and during the spawn and survive. This one won't either so truthfully next week's meeting to me is anti-climatic because decisions as always have already been made and none of the options will address what's ailing this fishery if management doesn't address commercial regulations and the multitude of negative impacts their practices are having on the stock. In the big picture once again, the recreational angler is going to get the proverbial short end of the stick and nothing is being done for two more years to address the issues effecting the fishery.
Last edited by Broad Bill; 02-21-2024 at 11:38 PM.. |
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