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The Sinker Man · #11 02-18-2013, 09:27 AM

Not really....Think about it Bruce, you seem to know about solder and copper and lead.

frugalfisherman · #12 02-18-2013, 09:41 AM

You forced me down to my basement laboratory. 8/0 jig mold. 9/0 jig hook. Cut hook down as shown with an electric grinder (the easiest way). Use fine steel wire to connect it to whatever hook size you want (2/0 in photo). No need to modify mold although the one in photo is modified. I will stand by my original statement. Hooks in a jig this size are best at snagging skates.

The Sinker Man · #13 02-18-2013, 10:35 AM

You are probably right about the skates and you explained this method awhile ago in one of your posts..This way you are wasteing one good hook just to get the eye verus a brass eye. But as you and Palmer stated , the lead will stick to the brass eye and/or there will be alot of trimming..There is a way to elimanate most if not all of that problem...Brass eyes are a lot cheaper then hooks..Sooooo, back to the lab........

BUCKTAIL BOY · #14 02-18-2013, 10:45 AM

Sam I have used stainless #2 eyelets and the lead comes off much better it doesn't stick as bad ! But what do I know

I sold all my doit molds !!!!

TDaly25 · #15 02-18-2013, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by BUCKTAIL BOY

Sam I have used stainless #2 eyelets and the lead comes off much better it doesn't stick as bad ! But what do I know

I sold all my doit molds !!!!

Collins Customs?

frugalfisherman · #16 02-18-2013, 02:17 PM

You're not really wasting the hook because you are using it to hold the other hook in place. You can buy the 8/0 and 9/0 cheap steel hooks in bulk for 15-20 cents each. Eyes are cheaper but one thing that concerns me is they have a very small footing in the soft lead. I can see th eye being pulled out by a big fish.

Jigsmith · #17 02-18-2013, 02:18 PM

The lead does seem to stick to the brass on the #2 eyes but I only have that problem with the 2 ounce cavity. I have no issues with the 3 and 4 cavities, go figure. It not a big deal to me to trim up the excess lead but for somebody with time constraints (trying to make money) I can see the drawback. I should note that one half of my mold has they eye pins ground away completely so I can use the 32786BLN's if I want to, maybe that's why? Not sure. In any event happy pouring to those of you that do, and to the others just get the heads from Sam or any other sponsor already poured.

Jigsmith · #18 02-18-2013, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by frugalfisherman

You're not really wasting the hook because you are using it to hold the other hook in place. You can buy the 8/0 and 9/0 cheap steel hooks in bulk for 15-20 cents each. Eyes are cheaper but one thing that concerns me is they have a very small footing in the soft lead. I can see th eye being pulled out by a big fish.

This isn't very likely in my opinion. I have been snagged while fishing 50# braid and 40# leader with jigs poured this way and the only thing that broke was the line in all cases. I was leery at first as well, but after using jigs poured this way for several years I no longer worry. Also if the eyes really scare you they make longer legged ones for more bite in the lead.

BUCKTAIL BOY · #19 02-18-2013, 03:00 PM

Every one of my molds take eyelets bucktails, diamond jigs, tuna jigs never had an eyelet pull out. Its much stronger then it looks!! As long as your mold and lead are hot enough.

PALMERS TACKLE · #20 02-19-2013, 08:23 AM

As Sam stated there is a way to do this with trimming of the pin on the mold.
You can drill the eye out and as I stated the trimming and cleanup is more. My business is Husband and wife so i pour and convinced her that Cleaning the jig is the most important and best job!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!so i never really have any trimming issues

You can also buy stainless eyes extra long---they give you more depth in the lead for better holding and less lead sticking.
I have used regular #2 brass eyes in jigs for years without failure on fluke to 12 lbs..never a pullout issue,but again the longer stainless option is available for piece of mind.
Collins customs is a great mold maker and Shawns molds are great i own many..Expensive though for the everyday angler..Plus he cannot and won't duplicate a trademarked and registered mold,believe i asked

His avaerage mold is around $200.00
He does have a similar guppy mold which i have used in the past but find the balance and head to be too wide.
If we reveal all of our secrets you guys won't need us anymore!!!!!!!!!!

I will say JB Weld Or SIlicone is very Popular