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Old 09-24-2014, 07:58 PM
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Default Re: Dorothy B SPEAK UP FOR STRIPERS!!!

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Would have prefered they went to a slot such as
1 fish at 24-28
1 fish over 36
that would have allowed multiple years of fish to not be taken.

That being said ANYONE that thinks striped bass arent being overfished really has the blinders on/
Amazing that you want to believe they arent being fished because they said so, yet all the other fish they claim are being overfished we want to disagree with them .

Time to have actual surveys about whats going on on the water NOT the bull shit surveys they now take.

Everytime I get suveyed they just want to know how many times the boat carried anglers, NOT 1 question about how many fish were caught
Dan, we have agreed to disagree many times before and with all due respect for you and your time on the water I am responding mainly to your statement that overfishing IS occurring regarding Stripers and assume you mean by recreational fisherman. Please expand on that. Even with "dock shots" of catches including Breeders these fish are everywhere for the most part, Schoolies, Breeders/ inside estuaries, outside in the ocean when bait allows within 3 miles or then outside 3 miles where only a very very small percentage are taken by those indifferent and they are there for many months outside the "usual" striper migration patterns but that's a whole different conversation
Also when fighting these assesments you state flat out fisheries management doesn't get it right with the surveys and its never that we agree with Overfishing or Not. Its just calling them out on their own words when they put in these bogus report that Overfishing is NOT occurring.
I appreciate Striped Bass as a game fish but IMHO there is no need for further regulation at this time. Status quo would continue to work, and save some jobs
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Old 09-24-2014, 08:21 PM
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Dan, we have agreed to disagree many times before and with all due respect for you and your time on the water I am responding mainly to your statement that overfishing IS occurring regarding Stripers and assume you mean by recreational fisherman. Please expand on that. Even with "dock shots" of catches including Breeders these fish are everywhere for the most part, Schoolies, Breeders/ inside estuaries, outside in the ocean when bait allows within 3 miles or then outside 3 miles where only a very very small percentage are taken by those indifferent and they are there for many months outside the "usual" striper migration patterns but that's a whole different conversation
Also when fighting these assesments you state flat out fisheries management doesn't get it right with the surveys and its never that we agree with Overfishing or Not. Its just calling them out on their own words when they put in these bogus report that Overfishing is NOT occurring.
I appreciate Striped Bass as a game fish but IMHO there is no need for further regulation at this time. Status quo would continue to work, and save some jobs
Dave IF you follow where these fish come and go from you would see they are hammered for the whole year minus a few weeks.
Its not just NJ fishing for these bass.
The chesapeke stocks get hammered from Thanksgiving until thier closure In April.
Then they come here and get pounded from May till July, from here they head towards Montauk and north where they get beat on nightly until October, then back here to get hammered again during the fall, unless the stay well offshore during that fall migration.
There are WAY more people fishing for them than ever before , and having great success as they are many ways to target them.
While the Bay fishery was awesome this spring, the ocean fishery here was BY far the worst it has been in the last 7.
Way too many people killing LOTS of bonus fish on top of their limits, just ads to it.
ADD upall the charter boats just here on the NJ fishing site. there are 5-10 times that fishing , and beating on the fish daily.
Add those numbers up , then add all the landings from all the other states fishing for the same body of fish.,
They most def are being overfished
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