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Old 03-12-2024, 08:54 AM
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I dunno, I guess I don't understand the need to poach, and take the chance these guys took and lost.. We're not talking stretching one 17 3/4 fluke so it 'makes the cut" here... Do these guys need this meat to "feed their families"?
Lots of free food out there these days, food pantries everywhere... Are they selling them?... I never thought Stripers were all that great anyway, they seemed to me to have an oily rag kind of taste for some reason.. Not awful, but not great... I tend to be VERY naive' about everything, and try and see the more positive side of human nature, so instead of saying these guys are low life slime I just shake my head and try and think "what was the mindset?... Why was this necessary? Was selling these fish going to bring them big bucks?.. Was an extra hundred$$ or two going to make them rich?... If you can afford to live in NJ, is the price of a few hundred pound of poached in the round striper going to put you over the top?.... Honestly,, I just don't get it, why are we always seeing these stories?... bob
The amount of illegal striper sales in New Brunswick, NJ during the season is asinine. They poach right from the raritan river and sell them openly on Facebook and in the small stores and bodegas. 99% of what I've seen and heard, it's central American immigrants--I watch them run short fish to their cars by the dozen along the Amboys all the way down thru Cliffwood Beach and keyport.

They ignore interference and rarely speak English.

I've spoken to marine police about it. They're aware. But they're stretched too thin. Impossible for them to regulate from northern Middlesex county all the way through monmouth bayshore beaches. They'd need over a dozen guys. They prob have 2 or 3. It's a shame. Watching a resource get blatantly abused is terrible.
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Old 03-12-2024, 10:20 AM
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I dunno, I guess I don't understand the need to poach, and take the chance these guys took and lost.. We're not talking stretching one 17 3/4 fluke so it 'makes the cut" here... Do these guys need this meat to "feed their families"?
Lots of free food out there these days, food pantries everywhere... Are they selling them?... I never thought Stripers were all that great anyway, they seemed to me to have an oily rag kind of taste for some reason.. Not awful, but not great... I tend to be VERY naive' about everything, and try and see the more positive side of human nature, so instead of saying these guys are low life slime I just shake my head and try and think "what was the mindset?... Why was this necessary? Was selling these fish going to bring them big bucks?.. Was an extra hundred$$ or two going to make them rich?... If you can afford to live in NJ, is the price of a few hundred pound of poached in the round striper going to put you over the top?.... Honestly,, I just don't get it, why are we always seeing these stories?... bob
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Old 03-12-2024, 12:22 PM
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poaching stripers has been going on for a hundred years,nothing new.just a another sign spring is near.
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Old 03-12-2024, 01:01 PM
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The first response from the general public is "seize their gear" when they see such arrests made by those bank fishing. Do people really think they are using G. Loomis rods and VanStaal reels ?? I find these around the river, this is "the gear"
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Old 03-12-2024, 01:24 PM
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Think the guys in your original post were using that rig? Poaching comes in many forms with many degrees of severity. Punishment should match the severity of the infraction whatever that might be.
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Old 03-12-2024, 01:51 PM
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Imagine going under cover and filming a documentary about all the illegal activity that takes place during the evening hours in the Raritan bay area, I think it would be an award winner !!
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Old 03-12-2024, 06:24 PM
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The amount of illegal striper sales in New Brunswick, NJ during the season is asinine. They poach right from the raritan river and sell them openly on Facebook and in the small stores and bodegas. 99% of what I've seen and heard, it's central American immigrants--I watch them run short fish to their cars by the dozen along the Amboys all the way down thru Cliffwood Beach and keyport.

They ignore interference and rarely speak English.

I've spoken to marine police about it. They're aware. But they're stretched too thin. Impossible for them to regulate from northern Middlesex county all the way through monmouth bayshore beaches. They'd need over a dozen guys. They prob have 2 or 3. It's a shame. Watching a resource get blatantly abused is terrible.
understood.. I lived in NJ 37 years, Lyndhurst, Union Beach and Forked River.. moved out in 91.. It simply was not that way during my years there.. Thats before the massive influx from the south... People did not behave that way to any extent that I was aware of, regardless of race or skin pigmentation but "seasons and bag limits" were not yet the law of the land. so there's that... My good friends and fellow forum members here must remember that in NJ, Pa. and NY, clear headed ,realistic, patriotic voters are outnumbered close to 2 to 1 by those that vote with emotions, outstretched hands saying "gimmee", or those that see everyone that does not think as they do as "bigoted, racist, fascist,Nazis that hates anyone that doesn't look an act as they do.. Its been a while since common sense has prevailed in the tri state area, and we are seeing the results... bob
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Old 03-12-2024, 09:38 PM
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Can various municipal police officers authorized to arrest/cite poachers?
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Old 03-13-2024, 08:04 AM
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Can various municipal police officers authorized to arrest/cite poachers?
With the shit that goes on locally in the highest poaching areas the last thing the local PD’s have time for is poaching.
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Old 03-13-2024, 08:06 AM
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Imagine going under cover and filming a documentary about all the illegal activity that takes place during the evening hours in the Raritan bay area, I think it would be an award winner !!
That’s actually a really good idea that would probably be a pretty good money maker if it went to Netflix. You know, that is until you never are seen again.
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