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Old 02-20-2019, 06:40 AM
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Agree 100 percent regarding stocking browns once again. The question is
when! It has been quite a few years now and I emailed fish and game a couple of months ago and they still did not have a time frame of when raising browns is going to happen, should not take this long, it is not that big of a project.
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Old 02-20-2019, 07:49 AM
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Sheesh, you would think by now some guys would learn not to question it when one of our top freshwater fisheries biologists tells you something! Ya just had to go and make him lay out the entire condensed history. Go figure...

If you read what he wrote . Their was a lot of concern about the browns eating the Lakers when the lake trout program started.
Only difference is at that time there was also talk about what could be done to help that program .

Unlike some many of us were fishing there when this happened.
Old timers I fished with got so disgusted with how quickly the brown trout fishery changed . Went from fishing 4 days a week to selling their boats .
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Only thing I would still disagree with is there was not a total decline in the herring there in the late 70's . As we saw big pods nightly until the mid 80's.

I just about lived at Round valley from mid 70 till 1990.
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Old 02-20-2019, 08:04 AM
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Agree 100 percent regarding stocking browns once again. The question is
when! It has been quite a few years now and I emailed fish and game a couple of months ago and they still did not have a time frame of when raising browns is going to happen, should not take this long, it is not that big of a project.
Rvta stocked em last year and year before that... along with Goldenís as well this year word on the street is trying to get some tiger trout,

Guys might be tight lipped in the club and I understand where you guys are coming with all your concerns... but there ya go you donít see the state stocking Browns,
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Old 02-21-2019, 09:08 PM
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More info from the 1977 - 1984 NJDF&W's Trout Biologist:

In the late 1970's, a Rutgers Graduate student of Limnology, set up a study to analyze the fertility of RVR and its alewives. Secchi disc readings were almost unlimited, indicating very clear, unproductive water. Very low chlorophyll a levels ( a measure of phytoplankton) were found. Small mesh gill nets were set to capture alewives. Trawling was also attempted. Only a few token alewife were caught. Not nearly enough alewives to analyze for the study. The study was abandoned.

If you think about it, with a well established population of larger brown & rainbow trout (along with the first group of lakers which grew exceptionally fast) faced with a rapidly declining alewife food supply, the fishing may have remained pretty good for a while, - a good population of large hungry fish, eager to bite because of the reduced forage base.
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Old 02-24-2019, 07:37 AM
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More info from the 1977 - 1984 NJDF&W's Trout Biologist:

In the late 1970's, a Rutgers Graduate student of Limnology, set up a study to analyze the fertility of RVR and its alewives. Secchi disc readings were almost unlimited, indicating very clear, unproductive water. Very low chlorophyll a levels ( a measure of phytoplankton) were found. Small mesh gill nets were set to capture alewives. Trawling was also attempted. Only a few token alewife were caught. Not nearly enough alewives to analyze for the study. The study was abandoned.

If you think about it, with a well established population of larger brown & rainbow trout (along with the first group of lakers which grew exceptionally fast) faced with a rapidly declining alewife food supply, the fishing may have remained pretty good for a while, - a good population of large hungry fish, eager to bite because of the reduced forage base.
Many people believe if the pumps were turned on a few times a year during high water that bringing river water into the valley would put the food back into the valley the alewife need .
Wondering what your thoughts are on that .
As after the dam work gets completed is that a possibility ?

And possibly keep fishing there more consistant for longer periods
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