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Old 10-16-2014, 07:29 AM
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The National Oceanic & Atmospheric Administration is starting a new task force to recommend policies on climate change's impact on fisheries. Details at http://www.examiner.com/article/new-...s-on-fisheries
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Old 10-16-2014, 11:11 AM
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Old 10-16-2014, 11:21 AM
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They all took the short bus to the meeting I hope they wore their helmets too
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Old 10-16-2014, 03:25 PM
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15 years of no temp rise despite what their infallible models predicted back then, all this ice melt and sea risings that didn't happen. Nothing. And how do these "97%" of top notch climate experts explain this? A "Pause." Lol, scientists don't use terms like pause, it's a pretty black and white world for them.

But the global warming money machine grinds on. More studies, more grants, more money. On and on.
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Old 10-16-2014, 05:35 PM
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15 years of no temp rise despite what their infallible models predicted back then, all this ice melt and sea risings that didn't happen. Nothing. And how do these "97%" of top notch climate experts explain this? A "Pause." Lol, scientists don't use terms like pause, it's a pretty black and white world for them.

But the global warming money machine grinds on. More studies, more grants, more money. On and on.
EXACTLY!!!!! Follow the money and you will find manipulated studies skewed to the progressive hypocrites. Follow unbiased scientific data and their is no correlation to long term climate change and man. 40,000 years ago there were no polar ice caps because the earth was in a warming trend. This all about govt. control of the people by a few elitist scumbag liberal politicians. Just follow the money and the truth will set you free!!!!
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Old 10-16-2014, 06:22 PM
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EXACTLY!!!!! Follow the money and you will find manipulated studies skewed to the progressive hypocrites. Follow unbiased scientific data and their is no correlation to long term climate change and man. 40,000 years ago there were no polar ice caps because the earth was in a warming trend. This all about govt. control of the people by a few elitist scumbag liberal politicians. Just follow the money and the truth will set you free!!!!
i agree with you 100% now if we could only get you to run for president you got my vote that's for sure.
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Old 10-16-2014, 07:33 PM
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First off a "task force" should be created to study the negative impact NOAA has on our fisheries forget about Climate change!

As far the politicians BS from both sides we are forgetting about just the science. Arguments will go on till we are dead about "Man Made" or natural phenomenon and government spending waste. The only real argument and quoted by non -bias scientists is that:

From National Geographic:
So far, the results have been positively chilling. When President Taft created Glacier National Park in 1910, it was home to an estimated 150 glaciers. Since then the number has decreased to fewer than 30, and most of those remaining have shrunk in area by two-thirds. Fagre predicts that within 30 years most if not all of the park's namesake glaciers will disappear.

Things that normally happen in geologic time are happening during the span of a human lifetime. Scientists who assess the planet's health see indisputable evidence that Earth has been getting warmer, in some cases rapidly. Some believe that human activity, in particular the burning of fossil fuels and the resulting buildup of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere, have influenced this warming trend. In the past decade scientists have documented record-high average annual surface temperatures and have been observing other signs of change all over the planet: in the distribution of ice, and in the salinity, levels, and temperatures of the oceans.

"This glacier used to be closer," Fagre declares as we crest a steep section, his glasses fogged from exertion. He's only half joking. A trailside sign notes that since 1901, Sperry Glacier has shrunk from more than 800 acres (320 hectares) to 300 acres (120 hectares). "That's out of date," Fagre says, stopping to catch his breath. "It's now less than 250 acres (100 hectares)."

Everywhere on Earth ice is changing. The famed snows of Kilimanjaro have melted more than 80 percent since 1912. Glaciers in the Garhwal Himalaya in India are retreating so fast that researchers believe that most central and eastern Himalayan glaciers could virtually disappear by 2035. Arctic sea ice has thinned significantly over the past half century, and its extent has declined by about 10 percent in the past 30 years. NASA's repeated laser altimeter readings show the edges of Greenland's ice sheet shrinking. Spring freshwater ice breakup in the Northern Hemisphere now occurs nine days earlier than it did 150 years ago, and autumn freeze-up ten days later. Thawing permafrost has caused the ground to subside more than 15 feet (4.6 meters) in parts of Alaska. From the Arctic to Peru, from Switzerland to the equatorial glaciers of Man Jaya in Indonesia, massive ice fields, monstrous glaciers, and sea ice are disappearing, fast.

When temperatures rise and ice melts, more water flows to the seas from glaciers and ice caps, and ocean water warms and expands in volume. This combination of effects has played the major role in raising average global sea level between four and eight inches (10 and 20 centimeters) in the past hundred years,

So argue the reasons WHY but you cant say its NOT happening.
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Old 10-16-2014, 08:24 PM
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How many cars were there from 950 to 1150 AD which was warmer than today?
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First off a "task force" should be created to study the negative impact NOAA has on our fisheries forget about Climate change!

As far the politicians BS from both sides we are forgetting about just the science. Arguments will go on till we are dead about "Man Made" or natural phenomenon and government spending waste. The only real argument and quoted by non -bias scientists is that:

From National Geographic:
So far, the results have been positively chilling. When President Taft created Glacier National Park in 1910, it was home to an estimated 150 glaciers. Since then the number has decreased to fewer than 30, and most of those remaining have shrunk in area by two-thirds. Fagre predicts that within 30 years most if not all of the park's namesake glaciers will disappear.

Things that normally happen in geologic time are happening during the span of a human lifetime. Scientists who assess the planet's health see indisputable evidence that Earth has been getting warmer, in some cases rapidly. Some believe that human activity, in particular the burning of fossil fuels and the resulting buildup of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere, have influenced this warming trend. In the past decade scientists have documented record-high average annual surface temperatures and have been observing other signs of change all over the planet: in the distribution of ice, and in the salinity, levels, and temperatures of the oceans.

"This glacier used to be closer," Fagre declares as we crest a steep section, his glasses fogged from exertion. He's only half joking. A trailside sign notes that since 1901, Sperry Glacier has shrunk from more than 800 acres (320 hectares) to 300 acres (120 hectares). "That's out of date," Fagre says, stopping to catch his breath. "It's now less than 250 acres (100 hectares)."

Everywhere on Earth ice is changing. The famed snows of Kilimanjaro have melted more than 80 percent since 1912. Glaciers in the Garhwal Himalaya in India are retreating so fast that researchers believe that most central and eastern Himalayan glaciers could virtually disappear by 2035. Arctic sea ice has thinned significantly over the past half century, and its extent has declined by about 10 percent in the past 30 years. NASA's repeated laser altimeter readings show the edges of Greenland's ice sheet shrinking. Spring freshwater ice breakup in the Northern Hemisphere now occurs nine days earlier than it did 150 years ago, and autumn freeze-up ten days later. Thawing permafrost has caused the ground to subside more than 15 feet (4.6 meters) in parts of Alaska. From the Arctic to Peru, from Switzerland to the equatorial glaciers of Man Jaya in Indonesia, massive ice fields, monstrous glaciers, and sea ice are disappearing, fast.

When temperatures rise and ice melts, more water flows to the seas from glaciers and ice caps, and ocean water warms and expands in volume. This combination of effects has played the major role in raising average global sea level between four and eight inches (10 and 20 centimeters) in the past hundred years,

So argue the reasons WHY but you cant say its NOT happening.
Nice post. You cannot dispute facts. W ether its a cyclical event or not that's the question. Unfortunately everyone should assume that we have some type of negative impact on the environment.
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First off a "task force" should be created to study the negative impact NOAA has on our fisheries forget about Climate change!

As far the politicians BS from both sides we are forgetting about just the science. Arguments will go on till we are dead about "Man Made" or natural phenomenon and government spending waste. The only real argument and quoted by non -bias scientists is that:

From National Geographic:
So far, the results have been positively chilling. When President Taft created Glacier National Park in 1910, it was home to an estimated 150 glaciers. Since then the number has decreased to fewer than 30, and most of those remaining have shrunk in area by two-thirds. Fagre predicts that within 30 years most if not all of the park's namesake glaciers will disappear.

Things that normally happen in geologic time are happening during the span of a human lifetime. Scientists who assess the planet's health see indisputable evidence that Earth has been getting warmer, in some cases rapidly. Some believe that human activity, in particular the burning of fossil fuels and the resulting buildup of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere, have influenced this warming trend. In the past decade scientists have documented record-high average annual surface temperatures and have been observing other signs of change all over the planet: in the distribution of ice, and in the salinity, levels, and temperatures of the oceans.

"This glacier used to be closer," Fagre declares as we crest a steep section, his glasses fogged from exertion. He's only half joking. A trailside sign notes that since 1901, Sperry Glacier has shrunk from more than 800 acres (320 hectares) to 300 acres (120 hectares). "That's out of date," Fagre says, stopping to catch his breath. "It's now less than 250 acres (100 hectares)."

Everywhere on Earth ice is changing. The famed snows of Kilimanjaro have melted more than 80 percent since 1912. Glaciers in the Garhwal Himalaya in India are retreating so fast that researchers believe that most central and eastern Himalayan glaciers could virtually disappear by 2035. Arctic sea ice has thinned significantly over the past half century, and its extent has declined by about 10 percent in the past 30 years. NASA's repeated laser altimeter readings show the edges of Greenland's ice sheet shrinking. Spring freshwater ice breakup in the Northern Hemisphere now occurs nine days earlier than it did 150 years ago, and autumn freeze-up ten days later. Thawing permafrost has caused the ground to subside more than 15 feet (4.6 meters) in parts of Alaska. From the Arctic to Peru, from Switzerland to the equatorial glaciers of Man Jaya in Indonesia, massive ice fields, monstrous glaciers, and sea ice are disappearing, fast.

When temperatures rise and ice melts, more water flows to the seas from glaciers and ice caps, and ocean water warms and expands in volume. This combination of effects has played the major role in raising average global sea level between four and eight inches (10 and 20 centimeters) in the past hundred years,

So argue the reasons WHY but you cant say its NOT happening.
It's not happening Dales losing ice in one place gaining it in other
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