Sandy, Warm water, and climate change

[sternline]

We've all been noticing the abnormally warm water off our coast for weeks. It's warm water that gives energy to tropical storms and hurricanes. That's where Sandy got its energy from and why it's been able to increase its strength as far north as New Jersey in late October. For those who still doubt the connection between climate change and events such as Sandy, check out this URL: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/1...n_2038859.html The article tells how the giant insurance companies are warning about the dramatic increase in devastating storms.

[kurtisb]

Scientists have warned of this for 30 years.

Sorry guys hope every one is safe

[Joey Dah Fish]

You look at the Huffingston post tree huggers? Obviously the climate of the earth changes in cycles. Warming, cooling etc. I just hope you are not one of the people that believe we as humans can change that. If you are " good luck with that" it's natural.

[Capt. Debbie]

Agreed. Man flatters himself with his imagined power.

Old folks used tell you all the gun powder from Civil war and WW I did it to the weather too.

We have not been keeping weather reports for more than the last few centuries and kid ourselves we knew 500 or 1000 years ago. Simply put we think too much of ourselves.

Volcanoes spew more ash than all our factories combined do in a year.

Bottom line... we aint that significant.

[Capt Joe]

Originally Posted by kurtisb

Scientists have warned of this for 30 years.

One political party along with the oil and coal industries has said it is not true for the same length of time. They have, through lies, kept us from doing anything.

Glad to hear Mitt admit that global warming is real. Wish he had a plan other than more oil and coal production.

It is only going to get worse.

Kindly put your left-wing nut job politics where the sun don't shine. This thread should GO!

[Harpoon]

Um scientifically speaking the storm started in the warm water tropics but ran into cool water on its way up, which would normally cause the storm to peter out. The atmospheric pressure caused the energy ramp up thats hitting us now and thus called "Frankenstorm"...not NJ's warm water you momo.

Using the Huff post for scientific facts might be just as good as asking a 3rd grader for calculus help. I'm a dem. and I say that!

Wrong time and place for this.

[scanman5]

I think the volcano comment is proof positive that humans can change the climate. After a major eruption the earth cools for a while (months at least) due to particulates filtering out some of the energy from the sun.

As for trends, yes they exist but not as quickly as they have been in recent history, usually depends o. How you draw you line of best fit. And even if we have little effect on climate, is it a bad idea to conserve energy or look for cleaner energy that will clear oceans and produce more fish?

I have at diesel boat that loves fuel, so where I can I sacrifice to conserve energy- warm house in summer, cold house in winter and small crappy cars that get good gas mileage.

Not political, just cheap, and it makes sense to conserve energy for whatever reason.

Andy

[kcritch]

Shouldn't this be in NON FISHING!!!! Preferrably on another websites non fishing section but that's just my two cents.

I think there are a few more important things at hand we should be thinking about....like the welfare of others maybe....rather than taking advantage of a tragic event to get on a soap box and present your own political opinion.....by starting an intentionally inflamatory thread on a fishing site no less. Well you were successful in pissing people off if that was your goal. Nicely done. Pretty arrogant for your 53rd post on the site too. Yes I'm grumpy.....so what?

Hope everyone gets through the storm as well as possible.

[RnK]

Originally Posted by kcritch

Shouldn't this be in NON FISHING!!!! Preferrably on another websites non fishing section but that's just my two cents.

I think there are a few more important things at hand we should be thinking about....like the welfare of others maybe........

Hope everyone gets through the storm as well as possible.

well said

[NoLimit]

All the planets go thru heating and cooling cycles and it is because of solar flare activity mostly so it's not manmade.

Right now we are starting a cooling phase.