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Old 03-15-2017, 10:27 AM
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Tough call here. I don't know whether to believe a fellow recreational angler who calls himself "Joey Dah Fish" on an Internet forum or ~97% of the world's climate scientists:
The 97% consensus on global warming
You people keep quoting the "97%-99% of scientists....." mantra. Yet another bought and paid for warming industry talking point hammered home again and again as if it means anything. You know as well as I do that ANY scientist that writes a paper or even whispers against the prevailing orthodoxy will be summarily attacked, tarred and feathered and then ostracized into oblivion. To deny this is to lie through your teeth.

So tell me, where would dissenting opinion find a home among professionals? Fortunately you'll start seeing it it now under this administration. Bravo to Trump for taking immediate action in dropping GW from EPA reviews and ending the Obama gravy train to the U.N. GW slush fund. Billions of dollars given over to the control of the most corrupt organization ever, can you imagine the idiocy of that? Just so Obama could bask in their praise and preen about doing something. I'd be surprised if they spent 10% of it on GW. Hopefully Trump can do something to stop that last huge balloon payment.
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Old 03-15-2017, 10:27 AM
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Fishguy, I've had just about enough of you

I don't owe you any sort of explanation on my stance on global warning. My personal opinion does not represent the official opinion of the RFA either, although I'm pretty sure it leans in the same direction.
Well, by not answering the question you answered it. You don't believe in climate change.
You also hinted that the RFA board members feel the same way. If this is true I will no longer support the RFA or any other organization that refuses to acknowledge reality.
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Old 03-15-2017, 10:37 AM
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Tough call here. I don't know whether to believe a fellow recreational angler who calls himself "Joey Dah Fish" on an Internet forum or ~97% of the world's climate scientists:
The 97% consensus on global warming
Let me guess......you use Crest as your toothpaste because 9 out of 10 dentists recommend it.
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Old 03-15-2017, 10:46 AM
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Let me guess......you use Crest as your toothpaste because 9 out of 10 dentists recommend it.
Let me guess......you didn't bother to read the article I just posted:

Scientific organizations endorsing the consensus

The following scientific organizations endorse the consensus position that "most of the global warming in recent decades can be attributed to human activities":


American Association for the Advancement of Science
American Astronomical Society
American Chemical Society
American Geophysical Union
American Institute of Physics
American Meteorological Society
American Physical Society
Australian Meteorological and Oceanographic Society
Australian Bureau of Meteorology and the CSIRO
British Antarctic Survey
Canadian Foundation for Climate and Atmospheric Sciences
Canadian Meteorological and Oceanographic Society
Environmental Protection Agency
European Geosciences Union
European Physical Society
Federation of American Scientists
Federation of Australian Scientific and Technological Societies
Geological Society of America
Geological Society of London
International Union for Quaternary Research (INQUA)
International Union of Geodesy and Geophysics
National Center for Atmospheric Research
National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration
Royal Meteorological Society
Royal Society of the UK

The Academies of Science from 80 different countries all endorse the consensus.

NAS consensus

13 countries have signed a joint statement endorsing the consensus position:


Academia Brasiliera de Ciencias (Brazil)
Royal Society of Canada
Chinese Academy of Sciences
Academie des Sciences (France)
Deutsche Akademie der Naturforscher Leopoldina (Germany)
Indian National Science Academy
Accademia dei Lincei (Italy)
Science Council of Japan
Academia Mexicana de Ciencias (Mexico)
Russian Academy of Sciences
Academy of Science of South Africa
Royal Society (United Kingdom)

National Academy of Sciences (USA) (12 Mar 2009 news release)
A letter from 18 scientific organizations to US Congress states:


"Observations throughout the world make it clear that climate change is occurring, and rigorous scientific research demonstrates that the greenhouse gases emitted by human activities are the primary driver. These conclusions are based on multiple independent lines of evidence, and contrary assertions are inconsistent with an objective assessment of the vast body of peer-reviewed science."

The consensus is also endorsed by a Joint statement by the Network of African Science Academies (NASAC), including the following bodies:

African Academy of Sciences
Cameroon Academy of Sciences
Ghana Academy of Arts and Sciences
Kenya National Academy of Sciences
Madagascar's National Academy of Arts, Letters and Sciences
Nigerian Academy of Sciences
l'Académie des Sciences et Techniques du Sénégal
Uganda National Academy of Sciences
Academy of Science of South Africa
Tanzania Academy of Sciences
Zimbabwe Academy of Sciences
Zambia Academy of Sciences
Sudan Academy of Sciences

Other Academies of Sciences that endorse the consensus:

Australian Academy of Science
Royal Society of New Zealand
Polish Academy of Sciences
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So tell me, where would dissenting opinion find a home among professionals?
The same place you'll find "scientists" who dissent from the germ theory of disease, or how about the throngs of professionals who disagree with the theory of gravity?
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Old 03-15-2017, 01:38 PM
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The same place you'll find "scientists" who dissent from the germ theory of disease, or how about the throngs of professionals who disagree with the theory of gravity?
Exactly. That's why scientists have peer review. But let's put this into another context. Let's replace climate scientists with professional charter and party boat captains. Let's assume there is a way of being qualified that's similar to academics and they all have a PhD in fishing. Let's say of the thousands upon thousands of these men and women in the US alone 99% of them are 100% unanimous in the best way to catch a certain fish. Would you take their advice? Would you say they're all full of sh*t because their professional opinion differs from your amateur one?

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Old 03-15-2017, 06:30 PM
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Anyone remember the first earth day? I seem to remember them saying a new ice age is coming...Charlie
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Anyone remember the first earth day? I seem to remember them saying a new ice age is coming...Charlie
Do you "seem to remember" a ~97% consensus on that clearly flawed prediction from 47 years ago?
Consensus on consensus: a synthesis of consensus estimates on human-caused global warming - IOPscience
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Old 03-15-2017, 08:18 PM
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Just wondering Blind Squirrel and Fishguy. How do you justify to your lefty buddies going fishing? I mean you burn fuel driving to the boat or do you walk? Then how much fuel does the boat burn or do you fish from a row boat?Oh and the device you use to post on here is it solar powered? How do your PETA buddies feel about fishing? Seems you got some explaining to do...Charlie
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Do you "seem to remember" a ~97% consensus on that clearly flawed prediction from 47 years ago?
Consensus on consensus: a synthesis of consensus estimates on human-caused global warming - IOPscience
Same old crap different day...Charlie
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