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Old 04-24-2019, 09:38 AM
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Default Raritan Bay Pipeline

I already posted this in the saltwater board but wanted to get the most exposure as possible so I am also posting it here.

Please read this and sign the petition to stop this pipeline!

https://www.change.org/p/kathleen-fr...pt&utm_term=cs
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Old 04-24-2019, 11:12 AM
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See my comment in the saltwater section...Charlie
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Old 04-24-2019, 01:19 PM
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I really donít want to start a war but... con Ed is not accepting any new gas customers because of concerns about its capacity to satisfy additional demand.
The pipeline will be carrying natural gas, aka methane. If you google methane many of the definitions begin ďmethane is a harmless gas.Ē It is colorless, odorless and insoluble. If a leak did occur it would bubble to the surface and disappear. Of course anything that leaked couldnít be sold so it is very much in the interest of the pipeline company to see that this doesnít happen and to fix it if it does occur. In the absence of additional gas oil and upstate, coal will have to be burned. All of this gets a lot worse when they shut down Indian Point.
All of which doesnít mean this will be an unalloyed blessing but we donít get perfect in this life.
I have no direct interest in any of this. I donít work for any of the companies involved
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Old 04-24-2019, 02:10 PM
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I think the size was a 24 or 36 inch pipeline. I remember when they protested the Alaskan pipeline. Here, I have a better idea.
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Old 04-24-2019, 04:43 PM
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Andy, you canít transport gas in tank cars.
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Old 04-24-2019, 06:10 PM
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Andy, you can’t transport gas in tank cars.
Not so sure about that. Don't they transport LNG in ships? Would seem pretty similar...Charlie

edit...I just googled it It can be and is transported by rail and trucks.
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Old 04-24-2019, 06:54 PM
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They transport LNG, liquid natural gas in very large insulated tanks on oceangoing ships. The gas is compressed and cooled and if it doesnít stay cold stand back. The internal volume of an insulted tank car would be too small for it to make any sense.
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Old 04-24-2019, 08:25 PM
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http://energyservicessouth.com/pipel...r-natural-gas/

Here is the link. It is transported by rail
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Old 04-24-2019, 08:44 PM
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I didnít know that but it is still far less efficient than a pipeline and not nearly as safe.
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Old 04-24-2019, 09:17 PM
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The pipeline itself isn't so much of an issue as dredging up and disposing of the potentially toxic sediment will be. That said the gas supply capacity is needed. Everybody has an opinion until they flick the switch and the lights don't come on and the furnace doesn't fire up.
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