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Old 03-11-2016, 07:54 PM
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The Government controls 30% of the land in the country now and we want them to control more. I think there is a problem with that. It's in NJ and should be controlled by NJ not the Fed.
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Old 03-12-2016, 02:00 PM
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Yep - first step is National Marine Sanctuary, next is Marine Protected Area. And this is all in state of NJ waters so why does the Federal Government need to be involved. What ever happened to the sovereignty of the states?

It's a slippery slope here and it needs to be stopped in its tracks now or we risk going the way of way of California where there are all sorts of areas closed to fishing.
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Old 03-12-2016, 07:38 PM
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I got our chant LOL.
I Stand with the RFA Don't Take Away Our Bay !!!!
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Old 03-12-2016, 09:41 PM
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I wouldn't take this Rik V Hemmens word for anything. He posts up on his website here are PUBLIC dates and now he tells you Private.
MARCH 13TH SANDY HOOK BAY NATIONAL MARINE SANCTUARY NOT OPEN TO PUBLIC

New Gretna, NJ - The Recreational Fishing Alliance (RFA) has been contacted by the Navesink Marine Heritage Association, the organization pursuing to have Sandy Hook Bay, Raritan Bay, the Shrewsbury and Navesink rivers and their tributaries designated as a National Marine Sanctuary, and informed that the Sunday, March 13th meeting to be held at the Key Point Yacht Club is not open to the pubic since the meeting location is a private facility. Those wishing to attend Sunday's meeting need to request permission to attend from Rik van Hemmen, vice president of the Navesink Maritime Heritage Association at 732 224-1133.

The general public will still have an opportunity to weigh in on this proposal. The Wednesday, March 16 meeting at the Red Bank Library, 84 West Front Street in Red Bank is being held at a public facility and no one can be turned away. Click on the facebook link below to let us know if will be attending the hearing.
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Old 03-13-2016, 06:29 PM
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MARCH 13TH SANDY HOOK BAY NATIONAL MARINE SANCTUARY NOT OPEN TO PUBLIC

New Gretna, NJ - The Recreational Fishing Alliance (RFA) has been contacted by the Navesink Marine Heritage Association, the organization pursuing to have Sandy Hook Bay, Raritan Bay, the Shrewsbury and Navesink rivers and their tributaries designated as a National Marine Sanctuary, and informed that the Sunday, March 13th meeting to be held at the Key Point Yacht Club is not open to the pubic since the meeting location is a private facility. Those wishing to attend Sunday's meeting need to request permission to attend from Rik van Hemmen, vice president of the Navesink Maritime Heritage Association at 732 224-1133.

The general public will still have an opportunity to weigh in on this proposal. The Wednesday, March 16 meeting at the Red Bank Library, 84 West Front Street in Red Bank is being held at a public facility and no one can be turned away. Click on the facebook link below to let us know if will be attending the hearing.
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I am not seeing any Facebook link.
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Old 03-13-2016, 07:21 PM
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Old 03-13-2016, 10:24 PM
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Go after them and do notback down. When the Stellwagen Bank National Marine Sanctuary was established, fisherman were very skeptical and not on board. They were told the establishment was to prevent oil exploration and mining and would NEVER affect fisherman. Nothing was in writing in the House Bill which created the 842 square mile National Marine Sanctuary. Here we are now 20 years later having to watch the Sanctuary Manager, his staff, the National Sanctuary Foundation, everyone they are in bed with, PEW, WWF, academia and others who want fisherman off the water and have their own little marine playground. Don't believe the hype, they hate fisherman and fishing. Look at all of the MPAs created in CA and FL.

Last year the Stellwagen Bank Charter Boat Assoc worked their asses off when the sanctuary proposed closing 55 Square NM on Stellwagen Bank to recreational bottom fishing. It was a grass roots campaign filling two meetings to where people were in the hallway with the message being NO. May folks on here like CaptBob, Gerry and others sent letters of support. Look what is going on now with the push to make Cashes Ledge and much of the Canyons and Seamounts area a National Monument.

Go and fight this and if you need a letter supporting the fishermen's cause, please let us know and our association will send one in support. We all need to stick together no matter where we do or not fish.

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Old 03-14-2016, 07:27 AM
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Thanks capt Dave.. Sadly some on this very fine site seem to fall into the age old trap.. "Oh that can't happen here"... Uh, yeah, it can... NJ like my state of NY, is FULL of liberal elites that feel they know best whats good for society and the natural world around them, and feel that the masses are just destroying everything, and that they need to step in and "fix" things..

You know, keep us from destroying the world and ourselves while we're at it... Our "guardians"...
They can and will keep us from fishing/hunting/owning guns if they can, and if we let them ..
Each person that reads this need to do a search on this term.Agenda 21..
Its real, and its coming.. the US IS a signatory... We WILL have our hunting/fishing/ownership rights taken by the government unless we are proactive... bob
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Old 03-14-2016, 09:57 AM
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As mentioned above, there are people who are probably thinking this could never happen in NJ.

Lets face it, there are more an more environmental groups out there who would prefer that we aren't allowed to fish at all. You might say to yourself that this is not the case here in NJ like it is in CA but look at what happened to Stellwagen. If our area becomes a National Marine Sanctuary it becomes a federal matter and the national groups who are very well organized and funded will be all over it.

Give them and inch and they will take a mile.

Once again, we need to stop this in it's tracts and take a stand now.
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Old 03-14-2016, 05:55 PM
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Thanks Capt Dave

The absolute ironic thing is that of all the party boat captains and charter boat captains that are on here I've seen very little support on this thread. I went on Sunday and can tell you first hand that this is no joke and that if this is not stopped it will get through. I hope everybody goes on Wednesday because if you don't god forgive your complacency.
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