I used to walk the bank of the Passaic River with a tub of berries looking for carp.....or find a mulberry tree ON the river. Would just lob them out on a small hook twisted around the stem. Ultralight—-4lb. Test......Awesome......could take 10-12 fish out from under a single tree. Very intelligent.....,they would rip drag all way across river.....into a fallen tree and break me off. Bar none....fastest way to carp fish......no weight.....no waiting.....lob out...plop it in count to 3.....hooked up.....fish on. Great fun and practice battling big fish on light gear.....some battles could go 15-20 minutes or longer. Best time early June when trees are putting out berries......