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Originally Posted by CaptTB
LAB, that's an easy answer. You have 1 or 2 bluefin per boat...... instead of ZERO for the past ten years.
You have had some of the best Fluke regs in the NE for the past 5 years, instead of next to nothing.
I guess my point is that United Boatmen, RFA, JCAA and a handful of individuals have been fighting this fight for years. Had these people and groups not been there you have no idea how bad things would be right now. We defeated paybacks for YEARS. You would cringe at the things that the enviros wanted in the MSA that they successfully argued to have removed.
The list goes on, but I refuse to get into a "what have you done for me lately" argument. (not that you were arguing LAB)
I guess the way I look at it is for the past decade we have all collectively worked our asses off fighting to stay in business, to get some fair shakes, to stop the a holes from simply taking over.
What exactly has sportfishingusa done?
And, who would you rather support........him? Or, those who have actually been fighting without any help from him?
I am picking on him on purpose since he gave the same old standard excuse not to do anything that I have heard for years. I think he copied and pasted it from threads I read on sites that don't even exist anymore. If I had a dime for every time someone used that one as a justification not to do anything I wouldn't need to do this, I'd have plenty of cash! I do understand what he means, I just don't agree with the sentiment to do nothing because those fighting the fight haven't achieved something he deems worthy, when he hasn't bothered to fight the fight himself and never considered what things would be like if there hadn't been a fight all these years.
That's all, it is not personal, and I mean that sportfishingusa. You are not guilty of anything that a million other guys haven't already done...... nothing.
Please do not take this as a personal attack, I am merely pointing out what has been happening since day one and reacting to the fact that it still goes on.
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do not take it personal at all. I have donated and know many who have and still do donate and join specific groups, jcaa,rfa, ssfff, and others alike.
I am not BASHING ANYONE... (i do hope sal cursi chokes and dies on a pretzel at a meeting) but i appreciate everything everyone has done.. I read the news and get e-newsletters and see what is going on..
But i have also called and asked for a breakdown on the money.. i dont really care who gets lined or uses the money.. but i want to know where it is all going.
Is it my business? not really.. but as a supporter and them being a 501 non profit i would assume it would be public knowledge but i have not seen anything available..
I see the bluefin situation.. 1-2 per boat instead of zero.. but if it was zero for a while what would it be in the next 2-3 years? 3-5 a boat.... or still stay at zero?
The squeeze they are putting on the rec guys and the party/charter boats is hurting everyone and it is not good... But we need to choose our fights.. I think that the limits are somewhat crazy but i also somewhat agreee and dont find that sending 10000 letters is going to do anything.. i do think that proving them scientifically wrong would be the answer... And i think that is another way to start..
