[bulletbob]

actually, I fish a very deep and rocky section of the river, and its the same.. nothing from June through Sept. There is 10 FOW and big rocks right at the shoreline and it goes to 20 FOW not far from shore. Not even a bite, unless you want big cats at night..They as the water clears and cools in October, its a fish every cast.. Couple years ago, I caught 30 SMB from shore , standing on the same rock in ONE hour!.. all over 12 inches.. This year the fish are much smaller for some reason, not many over a foot or so.. last year they were even smaller.. These days, i don't even try to fish the river after about June, and neither does anyone else.. You don't see a fisherman anywhere on the river until fall.. Its just odd really... I can be around Deposit NY in around an hour at the Delaware River, but I dunno, not going to make the drive for SMB.. I have other places up here to catch them.. I would make the drive if there are enough walleyes to make it worth my while, as now they are quite scarce in central NY state since the walleye collapse in the susquehanna... bob