I was at dows the other day and the ice is good to go there and the state park is good as well if you go out on the main lake take a spud bar and check as you go. the ice in the north section of the lake where i was today had 5" of black ice a small layer of water and 3" of white ice any where the snow is thick there is more water that has not froze yet you can put a spud through it and there is some black ice under that. you will need good waterproof boots as you will likely get your feet wet just walking around. As for budd lake fast eddie was out there not to long ago going after a different type of slime dart you might want to pm him for the ice info there. be safe and flaggggggggggggg up.
