Thanks Mikey, challenge is figuring out the pattern. Have had some good days and skunks over the last few weeks. Few weeks ago fish were jumping all over the place but wouldn't take or follow a lure. Thought the fish might be feeding on insects which were feeding on the dying vegetation in the lake. Came back the next day with a seven weight and basically nymph fished stones and scuds and landed seven using a strike indicator fished right along the weed line. All I can assume is they weren't keying on herring yet and we're feeding on midges or small insects in the dying vegetation. Very cool way to catch them.