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Originally Posted by reason162
Your posts re fluke center around 2 themes: sex ratio imbalance and unsustainable commercial harvesting. Neither of these are born out by the data. You are going against the grain of scientific consensus as it stands today.
Your goal is to relax size limits. Great! If the biomass is shifting north, and size increases in the northern range vs the southern range (and that IS the scientific consensus), you arrive at your goal of looser size restrictions by aligning yourself with the scientific community.
In other words...your prolific efforts up to this point is largely misguided. Focus on the accepted science of climate change and how it's influencing migratory patterns, and you end up in the same place. Except then you'd largely be making sense doing it.
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My posts revolve around a distinct relationship illustrating a decrease in recruitment levels in the absolute and relative to SSB which coincides with the precise timing of increases in size limits for recreational anglers and responsible for consequential changes in the composition of commercial and recreational harvest with larger sexually mature fish albeit for different reasons. Recreational due to size limit mandates, commercial based on a conscious effort to harvest larger fish having greater market values.
ALL FACTS. whether you choose to acknowledge it or not. All that in addition to an extreme disparity in access to the resource between commercial and recreational interests due to the same recreational size limit increases while commercial size limits remained status quo.
My goal is to bring those issues to the surface with fisheries management which are the underlying reasons in my opinion causing the fishery to fail unless of course your definition of a successful fishery involves a declining biomass even with catch levels being cut by two-thirds over the last three decades. The data supports my positions and conclusions 100% in spite of your inability to comprehend that. Your cross to bear, not mine. Regardless of where the biomass is located and why, if you read the attached two charts as signs of a healthy fishery which outline those catch level reductions, SSB continuing it's 17-yr downward trend and recruitment continuing to fail over a significantly more prolonged 35-yr period then there's really no need for continued discussions. Can't have an intellectual fact-based discussion with someone who lacks the capacity to interpret data. Your obsession with science doing no wrong in light of material discrepancies and inconsistencies in their own data and your position on climate change have skewed your perspective of reality. Just keep enjoying the banner fluke season we're currently having, keep subsidizing the commercial harvest with discards while commercials enjoy their 40% quota increase and laugh all the way to the bank at our expense.
