just realized i need a special stake for the line alarm to screw into i guess? couldn't find them on the site except for huge multi rod holder set ups haha.
I'm guessing for the price they're crap but what about these:
http://www.bigcarptackle.com/ngt-clip-on-z-alarm
no special rod holder needed. unless they get in the way while casting and fighting the fish? I feel like you wouldn't want the line in the alarm wheel while fighting the fish.
i hate buying new stuff online, i wish stores around here just had them so i could look at it and not worry about all the guess work and just exchange it if i wanted something else haha