[bulletbob]

I dunno.. Lots of small fluke on killies, but they certainly do like them in the rivers/bay... I find a spearing is hit just as quickly as a killie, and they are cheaper, unless you have access to "free" killies.. They say that big live killies are very good for sea bass as well, never tried them. In fresh water, live killies are inhaled instantly by pickerel, perch, crappies etc.. I found them better than shiners, because shiners would croak just looking at a hook, and i would often catch 4 or 5 fish on the same killie, and it would still be kicking... Tough little SOB'S.... bob