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yeah, the valley from shore can be a tough nut to crack sometimes. at least you got out there with the kid.

i dunno if you tried, but one thing to maybe keep in mind for the little guy if the fish aren't biting on the main lake... the swimming lake is usually quite a bit warmer and has loads of panfish and little bass that will readily hit whatever you throw at them. no trout in there, but it's good for wiping the skunk off if the action is slow on the big water.