Absolutely, you're 100% correct. That's what Capt. Chad and me were talking about on the radio yesterday. And it's not like this business isn't hard enough with everything. Especially raising that 14 inch tog to 15 inch. So many 14 and 14-1/2 inch tog have been thrown back this year. Like you said it's a crying shame to dump all that heavy rock and kill the tog, for what? Like you said they could dump just a half a mile away and make new stuff. Thx., for the reply, Capt. Scott P.S. A little bit of good news, Capt. Glenn just called again and said he's got a tog bite going. He said Rob and Brian have been running around with the net the last 45 minutes. I'll post a follow-up report with pictures tonight. Thx., Capt. Scott