It's all a pissing match..... Isn't it? Good seeing ya Dale and I'm glad we located some feeding fish to save your day!!! (and a little fuel to get you back to the ramp haha) We're toying with techniques, but fish are still gettin in the boat. I have a hard time picturing "downs and outs" without a bunch of headaches and tangles, but it might be worth a go, at least once. Hooking up a remote to the troller- $$$

- would help avoid some problems. I've been switchin seats with Phil to keep the lines tight and boat on track, but I think one of us is gonna end up in the drink sooner or later.