[jimmythegreek]

in 90% of the lake theres no surface weeds, but a rly heavy thermocline, its a reservoir type setup, mostly gravel and rocks. I fished it once last year to no avail on stripers but the thermocline was 11 feet down, never seen anything like it. A poor mans downrigger can be 3+ oz of weight on a deep sea rod and you mark the line before hand to the depth u want, or say 10 feet. that way u can eyeball the + or - u want and use a thin rubberband to set your main line too however back you want. fish hits and rubber band breaks. Or same principal using a 3 way swivel w heavy weight on bottom snap, does the same thing. A nifty way is a jet diver or disk diver, 10 ft is a common size, they keep ur bait down there