at the water edge before sun up just me and another I threw lures no action the other guy was bait/GULP on the bottom I saw 2 sometimes 3 rods going off at the same time it was funny just watching him handle all the rods but he did good seen him take his limit with ease in 20 mins my time did not come until 9am the bite turned on for me they started hitting lures limit out by 10:30 both of our fish 18 inch sized nothing larger TO