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iraevski 06-08-2015 05:36 AM

Need some advice on jigging lakers in rvr
 
hi guys

haven't been fishing much lately but want to get back into it this summer. last year i started fishing for trout for the first time and had some success trolling for lakers in the fall. haven't caught anything this year but only gone out once.

anyways, while i do enjoy trolling when fishing with friends, i find it difficult to work the trolling rods while driving the boat by myself. so as an alternative i was looking into jiggin for lakers when i go fishing alone.

was wondering if anyone on here regularly jigs for lakers and if you would be kind enough to share some advice in terms of rigs/techniques, etc.

from what i was reading online, i can use my bass rod equipped with some 20ib braid, tipped with fluoro leader and a jigging spoon.

would appreciate any feedback.

waynedane 06-08-2015 11:22 AM

Re: Need some advice on jigging lakers in rvr
 
I fish solo there a few days a week, when trolling gets slow I'll find some readings and drop a binsky down and jig em up. My electric motor keeps me over the top, otherwise I'd be drifting and not sure how well that would work.

jimmythegreek 06-08-2015 12:52 PM

Re: Need some advice on jigging lakers in rvr
 
What I do is setup for the troll and keep ur eyes on the sonar. when u see good bottom marks make a waypoint on the plotter and as the day goes and it slows go back and jig those marks. I am a big binsky fan but crippled herring in 1oz size work great as do large tubes w heavy jig heads. I also like shiners on 1oz jigheads but you gotta get the right jig heads for that setup. Best way to troll is w the 9.9 AND the electric so u can keep the boat going in the right direction on hookups, an ipilot on a minnkota is the most valuable piece of equipment I own, cant fish without it.

I fished saturday morn and they were killing jointed F7 in rainbow trout pattern 150 ft back, also did good 10' off bottom with mini cowbells and small spoon for a pair of lakers. Most fish marked were 10-15 ft down, invest in a set or two of planer boards you can easily fish 6 lines, with downriggers stacked I can run 10 without issues

iraevski 06-09-2015 05:17 AM

Re: Need some advice on jigging lakers in rvr
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by waynedane (Post 407169)
I fish solo there a few days a week, when trolling gets slow I'll find some readings and drop a binsky down and jig em up. My electric motor keeps me over the top, otherwise I'd be drifting and not sure how well that would work.

i will try a binsky next time. what kind of rod/reel/line do you use? what size binsky?

iraevski 06-09-2015 05:26 AM

Re: Need some advice on jigging lakers in rvr
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jimmythegreek (Post 407181)
What I do is setup for the troll and keep ur eyes on the sonar. when u see good bottom marks make a waypoint on the plotter and as the day goes and it slows go back and jig those marks. I am a big binsky fan but crippled herring in 1oz size work great as do large tubes w heavy jig heads. I also like shiners on 1oz jigheads but you gotta get the right jig heads for that setup. Best way to troll is w the 9.9 AND the electric so u can keep the boat going in the right direction on hookups, an ipilot on a minnkota is the most valuable piece of equipment I own, cant fish without it.

I fished saturday morn and they were killing jointed F7 in rainbow trout pattern 150 ft back, also did good 10' off bottom with mini cowbells and small spoon for a pair of lakers. Most fish marked were 10-15 ft down, invest in a set or two of planer boards you can easily fish 6 lines, with downriggers stacked I can run 10 without issues

Jimmy

thank you for your response. i do have planer boards and use them regularly. i find it hard know when i have a fish on with planer boards, especially when the water is choppy and i am using leadcore. in how many feet of water do you usually troll?

as for ipilot i checked it out online. looks like a very good fishing tool. probably a bit out of my price range though. i have an old minncota trolling motor (probably 10 years old). i don't think i can connect it to the ipilot. would need to get a whole new setup which is like at least 2k from what i have seen. so the ipilot comes with its own gps?

i was also looking to learn about jiggin technique as i have never fished jigs before. when i fish for bass i mostly use senkos and you don't really need to do anything with them, just drop them and retrieve. what kind of motion does binsky/herring require?

waynedane 06-09-2015 08:08 AM

Re: Need some advice on jigging lakers in rvr
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by iraevski (Post 407278)
i will try a binsky next time. what kind of rod/reel/line do you use? what size binsky?

Usually an ounce, depending on depth etc. mostly use a light spinning rod and reel, 10 lb test. I'm going to be selling my min Kota terrova with ipilot next week after I get my new ulterra installed. Only 2 years old, 45 in shaft if interested. Only reason I'm selling is because the new one has auto deploy. It's 24 volt.

Capt. Lou 06-09-2015 08:10 AM

Re: Need some advice on jigging lakers in rvr
 
Deep jigging I like braid use 10# , top shot fluoro 8# 10'plus.
Rod I prefer 7.5 spin med power moderate fast taper.
Jigging spoon should be chosen to swim/ flutter on lift & drop.
Sometimes a variation in method is required but I've always prefcered a sharp lift coupled to a tight line drop
Spin rods easier to jig with for me since I jig in front of reel thus it lightens load , UR now just jigging rod blank not lifting reel & full rod length
Like any jigging u must be on the fish , pay attention to down temps that's UR strike zone & it remains the same all over the lake.
This time of year thermo is setting up & fish become more active in preferred temps !
Using the FF is only half the game where these two marry is where u wanna concentrate efforts !
Sometimes drifting over open water while jigging proper depths & temp range will garner strikes from active fish at random.
Jigging deep wAter one of my fav ways to fish especially in late fall!
Certain species tend to congragate while others roam the depths within there comfort range & seldom gather except @ lunch time !
Remember the thermo in clear lakes such as the valley can be 20' +thick , so outline this & UR at least fishing decent holding water.
Like trolling if UR not on active fish keep moving to find em ' but try to stY in preferred temp ranges this time of year for best results !

Chrisper4694 06-09-2015 12:13 PM

Re: Need some advice on jigging lakers in rvr
 
bring chum, lakers can be ravenous. you can jig them feeding like schooling bluefish if you find a good spot and have chum.

jimmythegreek 06-09-2015 01:01 PM

Re: Need some advice on jigging lakers in rvr
 
no need for leadcore this time of year unless you are targeting lakers, all the bows and browns are up high in the water column. As for boards get offshore boards w the tattle flag kit you will never miss a strike, they are the only way to go, church tackle has boards similar now w a flag system.

when jigging deep u wanna use braid, you need to feel the bites and ticks of the bottom, mono/floro wont give you that in deep water. I also drift and jig, and also drift a few rods w fishfinder rigs right on bottom w shiners/herring the lakers hit those too. if you get some good marks you can definitely chum them and they go nuts, save your dead bait and cut them with scissors into 4 or 5 pieces and chum the water up wind and up current and jig the other side, they will rise 20-30 ft to hit a jig when fired up

iraevski 06-10-2015 08:27 AM

Re: Need some advice on jigging lakers in rvr
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chrisper4694 (Post 407315)
bring chum, lakers can be ravenous. you can jig them feeding like schooling bluefish if you find a good spot and have chum.

Chrisper, thank you for your response. What kind of chum are you using? just cut up dead baitfish? seems like you would need alot of chum to have any effect, was wondering if you could get bigger fish and just cut it up


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