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Gerry Zagorski 02-28-2015 01:04 PM

If You Run a Gas Boat You Need to Take Action
 
We all know how E10 Ethanol is tough on gasoline marine engines. It does not store well, reduces fuel economy, ruins fuel system components, it separates, absorbs water etc....

There is now a move to go from E10, a 10% blend to E15, which would make it a 15% blend. If you're like me and think this is a bad move, please click the link below and voice your concern.

https://www.votervoice.net/NMMA/Campaigns/38547/Respond

Duffman 02-28-2015 03:29 PM

Re: If You Run a Gas Boat You Need to Take Action
 
Brought this up years ago here, when the topic was being thrown around in the auto industry.

Still don't think it will happen. Or I should say, it MAY happen, but E-10 will still be readily available.

Manufacturers claiming their cars wont run, damage to components will happen, etc etc.

Gerry Zagorski 02-28-2015 05:13 PM

Re: If You Run a Gas Boat You Need to Take Action
 
Duff - I know you are a car guy... Is it me or did the fuel ecomomy on cars drop considerably when they started selling E10?

If that's the case, I can't even imagine what it did to fuel ecomomy on boats where the engines work twice as hard.

Joey Dah Fish 02-28-2015 05:32 PM

Re: If You Run a Gas Boat You Need to Take Action
 
I noticed a drastic fall in my MPG many years back in winter like starting Jan 1st for several years and continuing to this day. I'm not quite sure but I heard at a particular time each winter the start oxygenating fuel. Is the correct?

Fin Reaper 02-28-2015 09:00 PM

Re: If You Run a Gas Boat You Need to Take Action
 
Not 100% sure I but I think I remember reading that producing a gallon of ethanol is more damaging to the environment than a gallon of gas and requires more energy to make than it returns.

bulletbob 02-28-2015 09:39 PM

Re: If You Run a Gas Boat You Need to Take Action
 
I was an auto tech for years.. Ethanol is 40% less efficient than gasoline... In other words, if you get 20 mpg in a car on 1 gallon of gasoline, you will only get 12 mpg on straight ethanol... So yes, you will get a mile or two a gallon less on 10% ethanol/gasoline , because 10% of the fuel in your tank has a 40% loss of efficiency.. I hope that makes sense... bob

DMac 03-02-2015 10:48 PM

Re: If You Run a Gas Boat You Need to Take Action
 
What we need to do is fight an even bigger fight and push for non ethanol gas to be sold at all marine stations. It is possible many states below the mason dixon line sell it as recreational non ethanol gas or just as marine fuel. I say it should be sold everywhere because ethanol fuels do not give you the fuel economy and cause many engine issues. If anyone knows how to get this started I am willing to do whatever I can to help. How nice would it be to be able to fill boat with non ethanol. No more costly treatment additives etc. No more issues with ethanol.

Dennis

Pm me if you want to go this route

Rubberhead 03-03-2015 08:34 AM

Re: If You Run a Gas Boat You Need to Take Action
 
Done

waynedane 03-03-2015 01:54 PM

Re: If You Run a Gas Boat You Need to Take Action
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DMac (Post 394459)
What we need to do is fight an even bigger fight and push for non ethanol gas to be sold at all marine stations. It is possible many states below the mason dixon line sell it as recreational non ethanol gas or just as marine fuel. I say it should be sold everywhere because ethanol fuels do not give you the fuel economy and cause many engine issues. If anyone knows how to get this started I am willing to do whatever I can to help. How nice would it be to be able to fill boat with non ethanol. No more costly treatment additives etc. No more issues with ethanol.

Dennis

Pm me if you want to go this route

I get non ethanol gas in allentown for my boat and it runs great, it is over 1.00 per gallon more tho.

DMac 03-03-2015 04:19 PM

Re: If You Run a Gas Boat You Need to Take Action
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by waynedane (Post 394508)
I get non ethanol gas in allentown for my boat and it runs great, it is over 1.00 per gallon more tho.

Yeah I run her down in fall and fill her up there for winter storage now too, but when your boat holds 205 gallons that becomes hard during season.

How much easier would it be to be able to buy it everywhere


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