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akoop 04-24-2019 10:38 AM

Raritan Bay Pipeline
 
I already posted this in the saltwater board but wanted to get the most exposure as possible so I am also posting it here.

Please read this and sign the petition to stop this pipeline!

https://www.change.org/p/kathleen-fr...pt&utm_term=cs

Charlie B 04-24-2019 12:12 PM

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See my comment in the saltwater section...Charlie

Ken Lyons 04-24-2019 02:19 PM

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I really don’t want to start a war but... con Ed is not accepting any new gas customers because of concerns about its capacity to satisfy additional demand.
The pipeline will be carrying natural gas, aka methane. If you google methane many of the definitions begin “methane is a harmless gas.” It is colorless, odorless and insoluble. If a leak did occur it would bubble to the surface and disappear. Of course anything that leaked couldn’t be sold so it is very much in the interest of the pipeline company to see that this doesn’t happen and to fix it if it does occur. In the absence of additional gas oil and upstate, coal will have to be burned. All of this gets a lot worse when they shut down Indian Point.
All of which doesn’t mean this will be an unalloyed blessing but we don’t get perfect in this life.
I have no direct interest in any of this. I don’t work for any of the companies involved

AndyS 04-24-2019 03:10 PM

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I think the size was a 24 or 36 inch pipeline. I remember when they protested the Alaskan pipeline. Here, I have a better idea.

Ken Lyons 04-24-2019 05:43 PM

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Andy, you can’t transport gas in tank cars.

Charlie B 04-24-2019 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Ken Lyons (Post 528936)
Andy, you can’t transport gas in tank cars.

Not so sure about that. Don't they transport LNG in ships? Would seem pretty similar...Charlie

edit...I just googled it It can be and is transported by rail and trucks.

Ken Lyons 04-24-2019 07:54 PM

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They transport LNG, liquid natural gas in very large insulated tanks on oceangoing ships. The gas is compressed and cooled and if it doesn’t stay cold stand back. The internal volume of an insulted tank car would be too small for it to make any sense.

Charlie B 04-24-2019 09:25 PM

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http://energyservicessouth.com/pipel...r-natural-gas/

Here is the link. It is transported by rail

Ken Lyons 04-24-2019 09:44 PM

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I didn’t know that but it is still far less efficient than a pipeline and not nearly as safe.

Drossi 04-24-2019 10:17 PM

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The pipeline itself isn't so much of an issue as dredging up and disposing of the potentially toxic sediment will be. That said the gas supply capacity is needed. Everybody has an opinion until they flick the switch and the lights don't come on and the furnace doesn't fire up.


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