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hammer4reel 12-10-2018 06:26 PM

Not TOO happy about this
 
http://www.njcleanenergy.com/nj-offs...ce=govdelivery

Betting we lose a lot of fishing areas to this we have fished for a lifetime

bulletbob 12-10-2018 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by hammer4reel (Post 521691)
http://www.njcleanenergy.com/nj-offs...ce=govdelivery

Betting we lose a lot of fishing areas to this we have fished for a lifetime

You might be right, but it does NOT have to be that way.. If they mount those towers and all the support infrastructure in areas of dead sand, they will bring abundant life to sterile areas, and open up a lot of new highly productive structure fishing spots that are within reach of small boaters .. the trick is allowing access, thats the key..
ask GOM recreational anglers if they want the oil rigs removed... bob

hammer4reel 12-10-2018 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by bulletbob (Post 521695)
You might be right, but it does NOT have to be that way.. If they mount those towers and all the support infrastructure in areas of dead sand, they will bring abundant life to sterile areas, and open up a lot of new highly productive structure fishing spots that are within reach of small boaters .. the trick is allowing access, thats the key..
ask GOM recreational anglers if they want the oil rigs removed... bob

I agree . But imo it will become a security zone. Everything changed after 911
They aren't going to let boats milling around in there with tightened shipping channels bringing fuel and propane in

AndyS 12-10-2018 08:58 PM

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There is that word again "stakeholders"
They just chop up birds these wind mills.

tautog 12-10-2018 09:18 PM

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They will be a security zone but you can go right up to oil rigs in the gulf. Makes sense to me.

Bates 12-10-2018 10:50 PM

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Wait till they start their Seismic bottom testing to to confirm the bottom structure for tower foundations....any fish in the area will get lock jaw or leave.

bulletbob 12-10-2018 10:50 PM

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It should NOT be a problem as long as the leftist radical state government in NJ ""allows"" access...

https://www.thefisherman.com/index.c...04&ParentCat=8


https://www.pressherald.com/2018/02/...-at-wind-farm/



https://www.blockislandtimes.com/art...g-so-far/51751

The wind farms are NOT the problem, but the people that are always voted into office in NJ might be... bob

bulletbob 12-10-2018 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Bates (Post 521716)
Wait till they start their Seismic bottom testing to to confirm the bottom structure for tower foundations....any fish in the area will get lock jaw or leave.

Thats for certain, but they come back before long... bob

bulletbob 12-10-2018 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by AndyS (Post 521703)
There is that word again "stakeholders"
They just chop up birds these wind mills.

Might be a good thing if they take out a lot of cormorants..

Gulls? Plenty of them around too.. Not a great loss.
Pretty good Crab/Lobster feed... the Tog will follow...;)

Don't know if any migratory birds, or "noble" bird species would be impacted, but I am sure a lot depends how far the platforms are from shore.. Personally,I hope the cormorants LOVE them, and try to roost on the blades while they are turning.... bob

dakota560 12-11-2018 11:46 AM

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Devil is in the details. Lot more involved in this energy alternative than most of us realize. But one thing is guaranteed, a lot of money is changing hands on a project of this nature and there will be adverse impacts involved. Question is what kind and for how long. Dan asks an interesting question regarding access in this highly populated area. Species reaction depends on whether the species involved is considered mobile or not. If the farms are built in an area inhabited by shell fish, lobsters, scallops, clams etc, a lot of sediment could be moved around during testing and installation that will change the bottom structure. Almost the effect Sandy had on a lot of hard bottom area getting covered up by sand, mud and debris. Depending on how the array is set up will also impact commercial as well as residential fishing. Cables have to be protected so rock structures are deployed on top of those cables in whats called "mattressing". How many commercial nets will be lost to these and what long term impact will that have on aquatic life. One thing is for certain, this is not being done for the benefit of the angling community and if the area chosen is shut down due to location, we're all screwed. Typically these areas are leased long term and like I said the devil is in the details of these contracts. Big business isn't going to invest billions and worry about fisherman. Government, both State and Federal, are getting their pockets lined as well and you can bet fishing access and marine impacts are not at the top of their priorities list, profits and protecting their investment are. We should all be concerned about this development since the people calling the shots don't have our interests at heart or conceivably even in mind. That usually ends up not good for the recreational and commercial community. Lot more details need to be understood before sounding the general alarm but all our antennas should be up. I'm all for clean energy but like anything else we should understand at what cost, impacts and risks.


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