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Sea Run Hunter 05-23-2015 11:17 PM

How many boats damaged before the river is dredged?
 
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This boat was stuck for several hours. He lost a lot more than a days pay. Last year millions of bunker died. This year boats are dead in the water. The tow boat waited hours to try to get this boat out. Even after hours of waiting the tow boat was getting stuck in the muck. Notice this boat is stuck in the channel.

DEEP POCKETS 05-24-2015 07:08 AM

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Good question and I agree, we only had 2-2.5 feet in that stretch at dead low tide. We were able to get through in our 23 footer but the bigger boats are going to have trouble anything close to low tide.

That's bad news for all the big boats in the back.

Sharkyispy 05-24-2015 07:25 AM

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Same here Deep Pockets. I passed that boat heading out yesterday morning and saw him back at the docks later working on it. I took the cautious approach where the marker broken off is and putted through the area with the motor trimmed up and taking it wide away from the green can.

DEEP POCKETS 05-24-2015 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Sharkyispy (Post 405094)
Same here Deep Pockets. I passed that boat heading out yesterday morning and saw him back at the docks later working on it. I took the cautious approach where the marker broken off is and putted through the area with the motor trimmed up and taking it wide away from the green can.

Hey Sharky - I have 23 Parker as well, open back PH I'm sure you like your 23.

I plugged coordinates of the stick near the green can and swung real wide and no problems. Feel bad for the big boats that have to work the tides to get out that's stinks for them.

Thanks again for NJ fishing poster who posted coordinates of the stake near the green can.....

Hope to cya out there Sharky, say hi if you see me👍🏻

John

cukes 05-24-2015 10:06 AM

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You should live long enough to see this river dredged. All the crap they talk about now, planning etc, is all smoke and mirrors. Nobody wants to take the responsibility to make a decision. Getting worse with every moon tide change.

hammer4reel 05-24-2015 10:29 AM

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I bet if a class action lawsuit was filed against NJ dept of transportation for lost revenue, as well as boat damage for the millions of dollars of boats kept in the river , they would get off their asses a little quicker

Capt.Garrett 05-24-2015 12:48 PM

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That was unfortunately me you are seeing there. trying to stay on the red side with what looked like more water, the wind had pushed the marker way off where it should be. i have the chain now as a "prize" its about 20' long for a channel thats 4 ft at high tide. luckily i escaped with only a slightly bent prop and 945 towing bill. managed to freedive under boat and change props. 3 hrs later.... they need to use bamboo stakes in areas like that. save the chain and buoys for ocean channels. class action lawsuit sounds good to me btw

jakesdad 05-24-2015 04:27 PM

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The entire back of the bay has not been dredged since the condo's went up on the island. The island is where they used to pump the spoils. On another note
other than the channel in the river all the holes have been filled from silting , and new land masses appear on low tide.

kahlborn23 05-24-2015 06:30 PM

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My boat is in shark river municipal marina. Have not been out yet but plan on being on the water Tuesday. Is this closer to Belmar in the channel?

Sharkyispy 05-24-2015 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Capt.Garrett (Post 405119)
That was unfortunately me you are seeing there. trying to stay on the red side with what looked like more water, the wind had pushed the marker way off where it should be. i have the chain now as a "prize" its about 20' long for a channel thats 4 ft at high tide. luckily i escaped with only a slightly bent prop and 945 towing bill. managed to freedive under boat and change props. 3 hrs later.... they need to use bamboo stakes in areas like that. save the chain and buoys for ocean channels. class action lawsuit sounds good to me btw

Sorry to hear your misfortune.Passed by you at channel and knew you made the most to stay near the red can to make way. Passed by on my way in at docks and saw you had the prop up on deck. Hopefully all worked out for you.....

Sea Run Hunter 05-24-2015 10:17 PM

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Follow Savesharkriver Facebook group for all current info on dredging. And how to help get it done.

Sharkyispy 05-25-2015 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by kahlborn23 (Post 405161)
My boat is in shark river municipal marina. Have not been out yet but plan on being on the water Tuesday. Is this closer to Belmar in the channel?

It's right where you would turn right to go North South if coming from the SR Marina, condos would then be on your left...

Tuna Tales 05-26-2015 07:22 AM

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Very sad!!

Worst I've seen it in 20 years.

Facebook group if you want to follow what's going on and how you can help:

https://www.facebook.com/sharkrivernewjersey

It won't be long when even the party boat fleet won't be able to get out!!




Joe T.

Flygaff 05-26-2015 08:18 AM

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This is a wide spread problem. I am in Monmonth Cove Marina. No one can get out at low tide. I draw 26 inches and I can't make it out

DoubleBarrel 05-26-2015 10:46 AM

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Two boats hit "channel markers" on Sunday and both had chains wrapped around props. I put channel markers in quotes because there is no channel. I'm sitting at my dock Saturday morning waiting for the tide to come in. Sad truth is I'll be forced to move my boat out of Shark River. Translation = no money spent in local small businesses in the Belmar/Neptune area. No dining out in the Belmar/Neptune area. No reason to go to the Belmar/Neptune area. Mindless idiocy at its finest.

Capt. Debbie 05-26-2015 11:29 AM

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Where is this?



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Originally Posted by Sea Run Hunter (Post 405076)
This boat was stuck for several hours. He lost a lot more than a days pay. Last year millions of bunker died. This year boats are dead in the water. The tow boat waited hours to try to get this boat out. Even after hours of waiting the tow boat was getting stuck in the muck. Notice this boat is stuck in the channel.


courbeco 05-26-2015 04:51 PM

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Are there any commercial boats sailing around the island from the North Channel or back in Shark River Hills? The marinas, commercial guys and the local businesses should band together and demand answers. Shark River channels were terrible 15 years ago. I can't imagine what it is like now. :confused:

jakesdad 05-26-2015 05:08 PM

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Frank,

This is what we have all called the North Channel. Old marker was 3 poles banded together, now sheared off and just below the water line at low water.The entire channel leading back from the Belmar gas docks is horrible.

Saw the Coast Guard go thru the channel at 11 yesterday morning, and returned about 1/2 hour later. They ran at idle, they know, but what can they do.

I also saw the boat aground on Saturday, he was in the channel and could not move until almost 3 1/2 hours into the incoming.

My marina, Seaport in front of the 71 bridge, has about 2 to 3 feet at low water, not good but I am in the channel in 30 feet.

Sharkyispy 05-26-2015 06:28 PM

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I watch the tidal reports daily to see when I will have the best chance at navigating safely through on the days I plan to go.. This past week I waited about an hour more on incoming tide to feel comfortable with it. Always have to keep the return in mind at the end of the fishing as well as you most likely will face similar conditions depending on your timing.

gsx99 05-26-2015 06:47 PM

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It,s the same coming out of the manasquane river club low tide i was reading 1.8 ft to 2.4 picked the outdrive up and my alarm wernt off twice from all the crap in the channel.

Sharkyispy 05-26-2015 07:09 PM

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A gentleman I connected to on FB who is from the back marina just posted he was in the channel today and grounded out, in the middle of channel.....

DEEP POCKETS 05-26-2015 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Sharkyispy (Post 405479)
A gentleman I connected to on FB who is from the back marina just posted he was in the channel today and grounded out, in the middle of channel.....

I was reading 2-3 ft in middle of channel at low tide last Friday, I imagine anything much bigger than 23-25 ft would struggle getting through there.

Sharkyispy 05-26-2015 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by DEEP POCKETS (Post 405483)
I was reading 2-3 ft in middle of channel at low tide last Friday, I imagine anything much bigger than 23-25 ft would struggle getting through there.

I had about the same going out on Saturday a little after 8AM


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